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And let's not forget the worst thing about this: Edge can't be installed on windows 8.1 or less By far, this is stopping most users from leaving IE.

by rk06 9y ago

And let's not forget the worst thing about this: __Edge can't be installed on windows 8.1 or less__ By far, this is stopping most users from leaving IE.

WorldMaker 9y ago
No one is using Windows 8.1, statistically speaking anymore, and Windows 7 only has 3 years left of security fixes remaining.
- leeoniya 9y ago
  we have 7.5% IE11 traffic on our ecommerce site (US, diy home remodeling). more than Edge which is ~5%. 7.5% is a huge number.
  - WorldMaker 9y ago
    IE11 traffic includes Windows 7 users. Windows 8.1 users is a tiny fraction of that 7.5% as most of that is likely Windows 7 since that's the new Windows XP that corporations will use for as long as it has security support because they are afraid of change. ETA: Plus the people that missed the Windows 10 free upgrade for Windows 7 (intentionally or accidentally).
    - bsder 9y ago
      Well, if Microsoft would quit spying on people and quit intentionally breaking things they might not have to fight to get people to upgrade. As things stand, Windows 7 is probably the last Windows several companies I know are going to use unless Microsoft coughs up something before they get forced to upgrade. Win 10 is sufficiently different that they are actually considering Linux. And, with the fact that everybody is moving to WebApps (hack, spit), it probably doesn't matter.
      - WorldMaker 9y ago
        The Ghost Stories of Windows XP we will tell around the campfire for decades to come seem to indicate that companies will always hard-headed stick with Windows versions beyond their useful lifetime. "Quit spying" seems like a red herring in that regard, because if that wasn't the easy excuse there are more right behind ("our apps don't work"; "the new app system is hard"; "we hired a VB6 programmer once in 1999 and we know this app is critical to our business but we don't expect to put our money where our mouth is and hire someone to update it for 2017"; etc).

And let's not forget the worst thing about this: __Edge can't be installed on windows 8.1 or less__ By far, this is stopping most users from leaving IE.

by rk06 9y ago

And let's not forget the worst thing about this: __Edge can't be installed on windows 8.1 or less__ By far, this is stopping most users from leaving IE.

WorldMaker 9y ago

No one is using Windows 8.1, statistically speaking anymore, and Windows 7 only has 3 years left of security fixes remaining.

leeoniya 9y ago
we have 7.5% IE11 traffic on our ecommerce site (US, diy home remodeling). more than Edge which is ~5%. 7.5% is a huge number.
- WorldMaker 9y ago
  IE11 traffic includes Windows 7 users. Windows 8.1 users is a tiny fraction of that 7.5% as most of that is likely Windows 7 since that's the new Windows XP that corporations will use for as long as it has security support because they are afraid of change. ETA: Plus the people that missed the Windows 10 free upgrade for Windows 7 (intentionally or accidentally).
  - bsder 9y ago
    Well, if Microsoft would quit spying on people and quit intentionally breaking things they might not have to fight to get people to upgrade. As things stand, Windows 7 is probably the last Windows several companies I know are going to use unless Microsoft coughs up something before they get forced to upgrade. Win 10 is sufficiently different that they are actually considering Linux. And, with the fact that everybody is moving to WebApps (hack, spit), it probably doesn't matter.
    - WorldMaker 9y ago
      The Ghost Stories of Windows XP we will tell around the campfire for decades to come seem to indicate that companies will always hard-headed stick with Windows versions beyond their useful lifetime. "Quit spying" seems like a red herring in that regard, because if that wasn't the easy excuse there are more right behind ("our apps don't work"; "the new app system is hard"; "we hired a VB6 programmer once in 1999 and we know this app is critical to our business but we don't expect to put our money where our mouth is and hire someone to update it for 2017"; etc).