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A few notable organizations offer paid continuing education (Masters degrees) and have extensive in-house training, with career progression mapped out. Here ar

A few notable organizations offer paid continuing education (Masters degrees) and have extensive in-house training, with career progression mapped out. Here are some: - Accenture - Booz Allen Hamilton - Deloitte - Department of Defense - Lockheed Martin - Northrop Grumman - Raytheon It’s not just consulting companies and the defense industrial complex, these are just the only companies I have exposure to that offer managed career paths. A drawback is that in those organizations, the pay is often low. Except the consulting companies, which just expect lots of hours. Either way, there are trade-offs involved. I haven’t seen a serious investment in education from Bay Area companies, probably because attrition is higher and it’s not seen as a safe investment.

morgante 9y ago
> I haven’t seen a serious investment in education from Bay Area companies, probably because attrition is higher and it’s not seen as a safe investment. Google provides partial tuition reimbursement: https://www.quora.com/Does-Google-provide-100-tuition-reimbursement https://www.quora.com/Does-Google-provide-100-tuition-reimbu...
rhexs 9y ago
Defense has career progressions? Is this for management? From what I've seen engineers are treated like cattle and hired and fired for the whims of every project.
- JimboOmega 9y ago
  Having spent the first 5 or so years at defense companies, I agree. There was no career progression,especially without switching companies. They want you to have a degree so they can charge more, but that's about it. You can easily work on the same project doing the same things for 20 years; I worked with people who did.
  - linkregister 9y ago
    Which ones?
    - JimboOmega 9y ago
      I'd rather not denigrate a specific employer. The reality is that they bill your time to the government a certain way based on your qualifications, and the contract specifies what qualifications you're expected to have. If you grow or change in some way the contract doesn't capture, they can't give you a raise without losing money (since the contract pays them the same). So classically you have to switch to another job - within the same company, or at another, to advance. Compounding this is the nature of classified work (which most DoD contracts are). You're in a windowless lab, and you can't really say what you do, or even, often, who you do it for. You get 0 visibility outside your immediate team. There are exceptions and some ways to get around these realities, but you're really fighting against a system that strongly prefers things remain static.
      - linkregister 9y ago
        So were you employed by one of the companies on the list I gave or were you just sharing your experience with defense contracting in general?
        JimboOmega 9y ago
        Actually, not on the list, even though I worked in two (of the bigger) companies, and one of the ones on your list was across the street on solutions drive in McLean, VA, from where I worked :). Also, that company would compensate you to get a master's degree.
- linkregister 9y ago
  Of those organizations, which ones match your description?

morgante 9y ago

> I haven’t seen a serious investment in education from Bay Area companies, probably because attrition is higher and it’s not seen as a safe investment. Google provides partial tuition reimbursement: https://www.quora.com/Does-Google-provide-100-tuition-reimbursement https://www.quora.com/Does-Google-provide-100-tuition-reimbu...

rhexs 9y ago

Defense has career progressions? Is this for management? From what I've seen engineers are treated like cattle and hired and fired for the whims of every project.

JimboOmega 9y ago
Having spent the first 5 or so years at defense companies, I agree. There was no career progression,especially without switching companies. They want you to have a degree so they can charge more, but that's about it. You can easily work on the same project doing the same things for 20 years; I worked with people who did.
- linkregister 9y ago
  Which ones?
  - JimboOmega 9y ago
    I'd rather not denigrate a specific employer. The reality is that they bill your time to the government a certain way based on your qualifications, and the contract specifies what qualifications you're expected to have. If you grow or change in some way the contract doesn't capture, they can't give you a raise without losing money (since the contract pays them the same). So classically you have to switch to another job - within the same company, or at another, to advance. Compounding this is the nature of classified work (which most DoD contracts are). You're in a windowless lab, and you can't really say what you do, or even, often, who you do it for. You get 0 visibility outside your immediate team. There are exceptions and some ways to get around these realities, but you're really fighting against a system that strongly prefers things remain static.
    - linkregister 9y ago
      So were you employed by one of the companies on the list I gave or were you just sharing your experience with defense contracting in general?
      - JimboOmega 9y ago
        Actually, not on the list, even though I worked in two (of the bigger) companies, and one of the ones on your list was across the street on solutions drive in McLean, VA, from where I worked :). Also, that company would compensate you to get a master's degree.
linkregister 9y ago
Of those organizations, which ones match your description?