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Google Blocked in Mainland China
- sandipc 16y agoany particular reason why today?
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- cdibona 16y agoIt's Thursday!
- davidmurphy 16y agoit's not blocked
- hugh3 16y agoI would love to see Google start directly and openly campaigning for the downfall of the Chinese one-party state and the introduction of democracy. Not only is it about damn time somebody with deep pockets did, it's practically demanded by their obligation to maximise shareholder returns. If the servicing of one billion potential customers is incompatible with "Don't Be Evil" due to the existence of the Chinese Communist Party, then the Chinese Communist Party needs to be swept out of the way so they can reach those customers. The US Government is too chickenshit to stand up for democratic principles when it comes to China, but Google has nothing to lose any more. I say go for it.
- pl0nk 16y agoThank you -- with this comment I finally realized that I have no need to read HN.
- hugh3 16y agoHow's that, exactly?
- mediaman 16y agoBecause comments are like chain links: the strength of the best is limited by the worst. (Facetious, obviously; while I disagree with your parent comment because Google has far too little influence in China to effect any change, a response declaring the whole of HN rotten is nothing more than a non sequitur; "Good riddance!" I say.)
- hugh3 16y agowhile I disagree with your parent comment because Google has far too little influence in China to effect any change Ah, now that's a good argument! That's the argument I'll probably make against myself when I'm less caught up in libertarian fervour. A sober cost-benefit analysis may reveal that google can't possibly do enough to hasten the downfall of the Chinese regime to make it worthwhile. Still, we have yet to consider the question of what they could actually do. Email every Chinese citizen? Fly the Goo-Jet over Chinese airspace dragging a banner? Radio transmissions across the border? Who knows? Can't do a cost-benefit analysis until you've thought through strategy. What is the best way to spend, say, a billion dollars in order to bring down a regime?
- Ardit20 16y agoHow on earth can you be libertarian and propose aggressive intervention in other people's affairs? A libertarian wants freedom to be his own adult, what you are proposing is saving the 'children' by bringing in some tough nanny.
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- moultano 16y agoAt least they aren't redirecting the dns to baidu . . .
- snprbob86 16y agoSince you are being down-voted, I should point out that this actually happened: http://techcrunch.com/2007/10/18/baidu-hijacking-google-traffic-in-china/ http://techcrunch.com/2007/10/18/baidu-hijacking-google-traf...
- jaaron 16y agoIt's not actually blocked! It's a problem with Google's reporting.
- fredleblanc 16y agoRegardless of my opinions on whether China has a right to block things or not, I'm going to say that I'll wait for a week to see if this is actually a huge blockage of Google's apps or if this is just "a bad day for Google in China." If you look at all of their reports, there are some days that things seems more blocked than normal. (Check out May 26 and June 18.) I'm not sure if this is just bad data getting into the system or what — maybe when it was time to ping services they couldn't. For the most part things go back online the next day. This does seem to be the first time things are in the red, but I think it's too early to assume everything is gone for good.
- neozhang 16y agoIt is not. from Beijing.
- libpcap 16y agoGoogle wants to exist in China, but without complying to their law.
- libpcap 16y agoAgain, Google wants to operate and market in China without complying to Chinese law.