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Discrimination laws are probably just a drop in the bucket. Once you start getting into drug tests, references, background checks, credit reports, reservists,

Discrimination laws are probably just a drop in the bucket. Once you start getting into drug tests, references, background checks, credit reports, reservists, social media, etc., it's suicidal to share any more than the bare minimum. In the US, we have a so-called right to privacy, but that's not really true with employers today. The information asymmetry is both astounding and obscene.

humanrebar 9y ago
> reservists Meaning discrimination against reservists in the armed forces because of their service requirements? Or discrimination because the employer doesn't like the armed forces?
- jstewartmobile 9y ago
  Service requirements. Even employers who are vets are terrified of this one. Hire a guy, he gets deployed just a week after he starts, you have to keep his seat warm, then when he's back several months later he's taken a job somewhere else...
  - humanrebar 9y ago
    Is there insurance for this sort of thing? Seems like an external risk that needs to be mitigated somehow.
    - jstewartmobile 9y ago
      There are alternative risk markets where you can get insured for just about anything, but it's still a cost that gets disproportionately shouldered by employers of young men.
      - wolfgke 9y ago
        Just reduce the salary for reservists by the amount that "his/her" insurance costs.
        humanrebar 9y ago
        I am not a lawyer, but that doesn't sound legal: "Additionally, discrimination against employees on the basis of past, current, or intended military service is prohibited. As with other types of discrimination, this applies to hiring and firing decisions; compensation and benefits; and other employment decisions." http://military.findlaw.com/family-employment-housing/what-is-military-employment-discrimination.html http://military.findlaw.com/family-employment-housing/what-i... ...so the best solution from an employer perspective is to enter a risk pool that distributes the risk. Being a big enough employer solves that problem, but there should theoretically be pools for smaller employers to join as well. I wasn't aware if that was the case, which is why I was asking.
  - lostboys67 9y ago
    Isn't that illegal? I worked for one company that sponsored a TA signals unit - I suppose they though experience as a RSM running a royal signals unit in the gulf war II was good management experience

humanrebar 9y ago

> reservists Meaning discrimination against reservists in the armed forces because of their service requirements? Or discrimination because the employer doesn't like the armed forces?

jstewartmobile 9y ago
Service requirements. Even employers who are vets are terrified of this one. Hire a guy, he gets deployed just a week after he starts, you have to keep his seat warm, then when he's back several months later he's taken a job somewhere else...
- humanrebar 9y ago
  Is there insurance for this sort of thing? Seems like an external risk that needs to be mitigated somehow.
  - jstewartmobile 9y ago
    There are alternative risk markets where you can get insured for just about anything, but it's still a cost that gets disproportionately shouldered by employers of young men.
    - wolfgke 9y ago
      Just reduce the salary for reservists by the amount that "his/her" insurance costs.
      - humanrebar 9y ago
        I am not a lawyer, but that doesn't sound legal: "Additionally, discrimination against employees on the basis of past, current, or intended military service is prohibited. As with other types of discrimination, this applies to hiring and firing decisions; compensation and benefits; and other employment decisions." http://military.findlaw.com/family-employment-housing/what-is-military-employment-discrimination.html http://military.findlaw.com/family-employment-housing/what-i... ...so the best solution from an employer perspective is to enter a risk pool that distributes the risk. Being a big enough employer solves that problem, but there should theoretically be pools for smaller employers to join as well. I wasn't aware if that was the case, which is why I was asking.
- lostboys67 9y ago
  Isn't that illegal? I worked for one company that sponsored a TA signals unit - I suppose they though experience as a RSM running a royal signals unit in the gulf war II was good management experience