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This has already been discussed to death, on 3 occasions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7353767 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7353767 (268 commen

This has already been discussed to death, on 3 occasions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7353767 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7353767 (268 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11799272 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11799272 (280 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13815779 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13815779 ("only" 24 comments)

fermigier 9y ago
Also, there's a followup by Coplien which has not been discussed: https://rbcs-us.com/documents/Segue.pdf https://rbcs-us.com/documents/Segue.pdf So maybe this document should be the focus of the discussion now.
- vog 9y ago
  I'd love to submit this document to HN, so it has a chance to get a wider audience than provided by this sub thread. However, the title "Seque" is completely unspecific and hence totally useless. Given that title, I don't see how to submit this to HN in a way that it attracts readers. This is really a pity.
  - ballenf 9y ago
    The guidelines on titles allow for writing your own title as long as accurate and more informative than the original title. The bigger problem, I think, is the velocity of articles appearing and disappearing from the front page makes follow-up articles have an inherently smaller starting audience.
    - DanBC 9y ago
      > The guidelines on titles allow for writing your own title as long as accurate and more informative than the original title. Mods appear really clear about this. They want you to use the original title unless it's clickbait, or inflammatory, or misleading. Only then can you change it, and they say an informative sentence from the article might do. This means that articles with terrible, unclear, titles get posted to HN all the time. See eg this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15540388 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15540388 (Of course, I'm not a mod, so maybe I'm wrong.)
      - lmm 9y ago
        Certainly mods actively edit useful titles, explanatory titles to replace them with the terrible, unclear original title (Steven Hawking's PhD thesis is a good recent example).
  - yorwba 9y ago
    Submitted here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15593322 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15593322 Coming up with a title was indeed a bit difficult.
away2017throw 9y ago
Are you immortal or do you have a time machine? New people with new opinions mature every day. Pay gap was debunked long ago yet the dead horse gets beaten every month.
lolsal 9y ago
I had not seen this before. I appreciate it being posted.

fermigier 9y ago

Also, there's a followup by Coplien which has not been discussed: https://rbcs-us.com/documents/Segue.pdf https://rbcs-us.com/documents/Segue.pdf So maybe this document should be the focus of the discussion now.

vog 9y ago
I'd love to submit this document to HN, so it has a chance to get a wider audience than provided by this sub thread. However, the title "Seque" is completely unspecific and hence totally useless. Given that title, I don't see how to submit this to HN in a way that it attracts readers. This is really a pity.
- ballenf 9y ago
  The guidelines on titles allow for writing your own title as long as accurate and more informative than the original title. The bigger problem, I think, is the velocity of articles appearing and disappearing from the front page makes follow-up articles have an inherently smaller starting audience.
  - DanBC 9y ago
    > The guidelines on titles allow for writing your own title as long as accurate and more informative than the original title. Mods appear really clear about this. They want you to use the original title unless it's clickbait, or inflammatory, or misleading. Only then can you change it, and they say an informative sentence from the article might do. This means that articles with terrible, unclear, titles get posted to HN all the time. See eg this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15540388 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15540388 (Of course, I'm not a mod, so maybe I'm wrong.)
    - lmm 9y ago
      Certainly mods actively edit useful titles, explanatory titles to replace them with the terrible, unclear original title (Steven Hawking's PhD thesis is a good recent example).
- yorwba 9y ago
  Submitted here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15593322 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15593322 Coming up with a title was indeed a bit difficult.

away2017throw 9y ago

Are you immortal or do you have a time machine? New people with new opinions mature every day. Pay gap was debunked long ago yet the dead horse gets beaten every month.

lolsal 9y ago

I had not seen this before. I appreciate it being posted.