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Probably because he has a problem with fear mongering.

by nnfy 9y ago

chris_wot 9y ago
It’s not fear mongering. The Lancet published an article about continued and discontinued use of cannabis after psychosis. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(15)00363-6/fulltext http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-03... But it states that there is a well established link between cannabis and psychosis.
- Pica_soO 9y ago
  I resent your being down voted, by a audience running out of arguments. If something that attacks your lifestyle or a dependency of it and you can not bring arguments forth, this does not give you the right to silence the debate.
  - chris_wot 9y ago
    It's pretty par for the course really.
- tim333 9y ago
  Yeah but the numbers are far lower than OP suggested.
- nnfy 9y ago
  No, this is disingenuous fear mongering. The article you linked examines psychosis outcomes after quitting marijuana. It does not show evidence that psychosis is caused by marijuana. In fact, the article is similarly misleading, as it makes reference to two studies which show, in the article's words, a "link" between psychosis and cannibus use. However, the two articles cited for this assertion [0][1] similarly only discuss a correlative link between psychosis and marijuana. While the correlative relationship between marijuana and psychosis is well established, there is anything but a consensus for the causal relationship between illness and marijuana. As they say, correlation != causation. Edit: furthermore, I encourage you to browse the wikipedia page [2], which supports my assertion with multiple sources: neither consensus nor causal link has been established. You are spreading potentially harmful misinformation. [0]Arseneault, L, Cannon, M, Witton, J, and Murray, RM. Causal association between cannabis and psychosis: examination of the evidence. Br J Psychiatry. 2004; 184: 110–117 [1]Stepniak, B, Papiol, S, Hammer, C et al. Accumulated environmental risk determining age at schizophrenia onset: a deep phenotyping-based study. Lancet Psychiatry. 2014; 1: 444–453 [2]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabi...
  - chris_wot 9y ago
    I’m hardly spreading potentially misleading information. There is actually a wide body of evidence that amongst certain people cannabis can cause psychosis. It’s far more harmful in that your sole reference is a fairly partisan Wikipedia article. Give me primary sources, don’t give me a tertiary source like Wikipedia.

Probably because he has a problem with fear mongering.

by nnfy 9y ago

Probably because he has a problem with fear mongering.

It’s not fear mongering. The Lancet published an article about continued and discontinued use of cannabis after psychosis. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(15)00363-6/fulltext http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-03... But it states that there is a well established link between cannabis and psychosis.

Pica_soO 9y ago
I resent your being down voted, by a audience running out of arguments. If something that attacks your lifestyle or a dependency of it and you can not bring arguments forth, this does not give you the right to silence the debate.
- chris_wot 9y ago
  It's pretty par for the course really.
tim333 9y ago
Yeah but the numbers are far lower than OP suggested.
nnfy 9y ago
No, this is disingenuous fear mongering. The article you linked examines psychosis outcomes after quitting marijuana. It does not show evidence that psychosis is caused by marijuana. In fact, the article is similarly misleading, as it makes reference to two studies which show, in the article's words, a "link" between psychosis and cannibus use. However, the two articles cited for this assertion [0][1] similarly only discuss a correlative link between psychosis and marijuana. While the correlative relationship between marijuana and psychosis is well established, there is anything but a consensus for the causal relationship between illness and marijuana. As they say, correlation != causation. Edit: furthermore, I encourage you to browse the wikipedia page [2], which supports my assertion with multiple sources: neither consensus nor causal link has been established. You are spreading potentially harmful misinformation. [0]Arseneault, L, Cannon, M, Witton, J, and Murray, RM. Causal association between cannabis and psychosis: examination of the evidence. Br J Psychiatry. 2004; 184: 110–117 [1]Stepniak, B, Papiol, S, Hammer, C et al. Accumulated environmental risk determining age at schizophrenia onset: a deep phenotyping-based study. Lancet Psychiatry. 2014; 1: 444–453 [2]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabi...
- chris_wot 9y ago
  I’m hardly spreading potentially misleading information. There is actually a wide body of evidence that amongst certain people cannabis can cause psychosis. It’s far more harmful in that your sole reference is a fairly partisan Wikipedia article. Give me primary sources, don’t give me a tertiary source like Wikipedia.