> The existence or not of collusion is independent on whether said collusion was ineffective or unnecessary. Am I misreading you or are you effectively saying

> The existence or not of collusion is independent on whether said collusion was ineffective or unnecessary. Am I misreading you or are you effectively saying that non-existent collusion can be as effective as existing collusion? I've read it three times now. (As usual I guess I should point out the sitting POTUS is and was not my preferred choice.)