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I’m not saying that wouldn’t happen, but we need to get away from the idea that non-professionals shouldn’t have access to their own medical information. More e

I’m not saying that wouldn’t happen, but we need to get away from the idea that non-professionals shouldn’t have access to their own medical information. More education and empowerment is the answer, not less.

mschuster91 9y ago
> More education and empowerment is the answer, not less. The crux lies in determining the boundary between education and quackery. The resurgence of antivaxxers, homeopathy believers and friends doesn't exactly help the case for deregulation here.
- staunch 9y ago
  Is there any evidence anti-vaccine and homeopathy movements are bigger than they were in the past? Google Trends suggests homeopathy is up a bit recently, but way down from its pre-internet peak. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=homeopathy https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=homeopat...
  - mschuster91 9y ago
    > Is there any evidence anti-vaccine and homeopathy movements are bigger than they were in the past? I'm talking about Germany here as I can't really speak for the US, where from 2011 to 2013 prescriptions rose 3.8% and OTC sales went up 23% (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hom%C3%B6opathie#Bundesrepublik_Deutschland_ab_1990 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hom%C3%B6opathie#Bundesrepubli...). As for antivaxers, Europe as a whole has a huge measles problem which has risen in the last years (http://theconversation.com/whats-behind-the-sudden-rise-in-measles-deaths-in-europe-80909 http://theconversation.com/whats-behind-the-sudden-rise-in-m...).
- averagewall 9y ago
  Are you saying proponents of quackery might misread somebody's home ultrasound or give misleading advice on how to read it? That doesn't sound any worse than what could happen with thermometers, stethoscopes, blood pressure meters, athlete wristbands, and inspecting the color of phlegm, poo, urine, skin, etc. Nobody would want to hide those things from people for their own safety.
  - mschuster91 9y ago
    With most of what you mentioned, the local quacker is not able to say "OMG YOU GOT CANCER, HERE TAKE THIS $1000/pill HOMEOPATHIC CRAP"... with an ultrasound image he is very well able to do so. And people will do it, thanks to human greed - if you need a confirmation google for "miracle mineral supplement" aka chlorine dioxide and the "industry" surrounding this. This is why we can't have nice things, the potential of abuse is just too high :(
psergeant 9y ago
> More education and > empowerment is the answer, > not less More empowerment and more choice is why the US healthcare system is so damn expensive compared to the rest of the world.
- khazhou 9y ago
  Explain?
  - webreac 9y ago
    He might be comparing with France where rich people can not pay for better cure than poor ones.
- civilitty 9y ago
  No that would be regulatory capture.

mschuster91 9y ago

> More education and empowerment is the answer, not less. The crux lies in determining the boundary between education and quackery. The resurgence of antivaxxers, homeopathy believers and friends doesn't exactly help the case for deregulation here.

staunch 9y ago
Is there any evidence anti-vaccine and homeopathy movements are bigger than they were in the past? Google Trends suggests homeopathy is up a bit recently, but way down from its pre-internet peak. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=homeopathy https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=homeopat...
- mschuster91 9y ago
  > Is there any evidence anti-vaccine and homeopathy movements are bigger than they were in the past? I'm talking about Germany here as I can't really speak for the US, where from 2011 to 2013 prescriptions rose 3.8% and OTC sales went up 23% (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hom%C3%B6opathie#Bundesrepublik_Deutschland_ab_1990 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hom%C3%B6opathie#Bundesrepubli...). As for antivaxers, Europe as a whole has a huge measles problem which has risen in the last years (http://theconversation.com/whats-behind-the-sudden-rise-in-measles-deaths-in-europe-80909 http://theconversation.com/whats-behind-the-sudden-rise-in-m...).
averagewall 9y ago
Are you saying proponents of quackery might misread somebody's home ultrasound or give misleading advice on how to read it? That doesn't sound any worse than what could happen with thermometers, stethoscopes, blood pressure meters, athlete wristbands, and inspecting the color of phlegm, poo, urine, skin, etc. Nobody would want to hide those things from people for their own safety.
- mschuster91 9y ago
  With most of what you mentioned, the local quacker is not able to say "OMG YOU GOT CANCER, HERE TAKE THIS $1000/pill HOMEOPATHIC CRAP"... with an ultrasound image he is very well able to do so. And people will do it, thanks to human greed - if you need a confirmation google for "miracle mineral supplement" aka chlorine dioxide and the "industry" surrounding this. This is why we can't have nice things, the potential of abuse is just too high :(

psergeant 9y ago

> More education and > empowerment is the answer, > not less More empowerment and more choice is why the US healthcare system is so damn expensive compared to the rest of the world.

khazhou 9y ago
Explain?
- webreac 9y ago
  He might be comparing with France where rich people can not pay for better cure than poor ones.
civilitty 9y ago
No that would be regulatory capture.