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Yes, there's a shortage of qualified software developers, at least.

by nevir 9y ago

wolfgke 9y ago
Why not simply open offices in other countries instead?
- nevir 9y ago
  It's often hard to split work between countries effectively (especially in large corporations). A lot of the larger & more impactful projects tend to be done at a home base - for political or logistical reasons. Speaking from experience at Amazon & Google.
  - wolfgke 9y ago
    > It's often hard to split work between countries effectively (especially in large corporations) How do you come to claim "especially in large corporations"? I would intuitively rather believe that it is much harder in small companies.
  - SubuSS 9y ago
    I don't know which part of Amazon you worked for - but this was totally done in Amazon: We had/have major pieces of kindle, aws, payments et. built out of India. I worked for one of those teams for two years. Amazon is so big that segmenting like this isn't a big deal at all. I am all for shutting the door on under-qualified engineers being hired just because they will work for much lower wages, But applying the same rule to companies like Amazon / Microsoft etc would just mean work moves to those offices. Personally I moved here because the team I wanted to work for was here (DynamoDB - given my history building storage engines before). I stayed because of the quality of life / opportunities. I mean if my visa gets revoked, I would sell my house etc here, pick up my money and probably end up in Canada / Europe offices of Snap anyway. I try not to attach myself to material stuff too much, I'd like to think I can make the best out of wherever I am, improve when I can. But not many (including my family) are like that. They like the security provided by a good immigration policy - means this will only take high paying jobs away from here.
- netheril96 9y ago
  They do, in addition to importing talents to the US.
alexanderstears 9y ago
There's a shortage of qualified software developers like there's a shortage of steinway pianos in my house. There's not enough available at the price I want to pay. So sad. The market's clearing but not for me. Pay more or adjust my expectations.
- rrhd 9y ago
  How much would google have to pay for you to go work there? I'd hazard a guess they don't lose most people due to pay issues.
  - alexanderstears 9y ago
    Ha, I'd have to get a golden parachute to work there. Some SJW googler would try to scalp me within 30 minutes of me saying the problem with policing in America is the lack of secret police. And the problem with airport security is that it's reluctant to embrace differential scrutiny.
    - rrhd 9y ago
      > Some SJW googler or someone who doesn't want to live in a totalitarian hellhole.
      - alexanderstears 9y ago
        No - people who don't want to live in a totalitarian hellhole know that scalping is totalitarian hellhole stuff. SJWs agree that they hate white cismen's hellholes but they just hate white cismen. SJWs love diverse hellholes.
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Yes, there's a shortage of qualified software developers, at least.

by nevir 9y ago

Yes, there's a shortage of qualified software developers, at least.

wolfgke 9y ago

Why not simply open offices in other countries instead?

nevir 9y ago
It's often hard to split work between countries effectively (especially in large corporations). A lot of the larger & more impactful projects tend to be done at a home base - for political or logistical reasons. Speaking from experience at Amazon & Google.
- wolfgke 9y ago
  > It's often hard to split work between countries effectively (especially in large corporations) How do you come to claim "especially in large corporations"? I would intuitively rather believe that it is much harder in small companies.
- SubuSS 9y ago
  I don't know which part of Amazon you worked for - but this was totally done in Amazon: We had/have major pieces of kindle, aws, payments et. built out of India. I worked for one of those teams for two years. Amazon is so big that segmenting like this isn't a big deal at all. I am all for shutting the door on under-qualified engineers being hired just because they will work for much lower wages, But applying the same rule to companies like Amazon / Microsoft etc would just mean work moves to those offices. Personally I moved here because the team I wanted to work for was here (DynamoDB - given my history building storage engines before). I stayed because of the quality of life / opportunities. I mean if my visa gets revoked, I would sell my house etc here, pick up my money and probably end up in Canada / Europe offices of Snap anyway. I try not to attach myself to material stuff too much, I'd like to think I can make the best out of wherever I am, improve when I can. But not many (including my family) are like that. They like the security provided by a good immigration policy - means this will only take high paying jobs away from here.
netheril96 9y ago
They do, in addition to importing talents to the US.

alexanderstears 9y ago

There's a shortage of qualified software developers like there's a shortage of steinway pianos in my house. There's not enough available at the price I want to pay. So sad. The market's clearing but not for me. Pay more or adjust my expectations.

rrhd 9y ago
How much would google have to pay for you to go work there? I'd hazard a guess they don't lose most people due to pay issues.
- alexanderstears 9y ago
  Ha, I'd have to get a golden parachute to work there. Some SJW googler would try to scalp me within 30 minutes of me saying the problem with policing in America is the lack of secret police. And the problem with airport security is that it's reluctant to embrace differential scrutiny.
  - rrhd 9y ago
    > Some SJW googler or someone who doesn't want to live in a totalitarian hellhole.
    - alexanderstears 9y ago
      No - people who don't want to live in a totalitarian hellhole know that scalping is totalitarian hellhole stuff. SJWs agree that they hate white cismen's hellholes but they just hate white cismen. SJWs love diverse hellholes.

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