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It's about ratios. There are about 220 million White Americans. Your data claims 392 White Americans have been killed police in 2017 so far. There are about

It's about ratios. There are about 220 million White Americans. Your data claims 392 White Americans have been killed police in 2017 so far. There are about 35 million Black Americans. Your data claims 190 Black Americans have been killed by police in 2017 so far. If Black Americans were killed by police hypothetically at the same rate as White Americans, 62 Black Americans would be dead. Do you see the huge disparity there?

DamnYuppie 9y ago
What you analysis fails to factor in is the number of crimes committed by each. In that regard blacks commit far more crimes then whites.
- cannonedhamster 9y ago
  Or Blacks get charged far more than whites, or that Blacks are policed more heavily, or that it has to do with poverty more than skin color, etc. The issue is that the data can't be conclusive unless you have an issue where you took two groups of people, gave them the same economic starting point, gave them the same systemic disadvantage, same opportunities and then could make a determination as to whether or not it has anything to do with culture. Or you could easily look into the fact that economically there is a long history of repressing people of color and that systemic collection of repressions them still exist leading to the exact outcome expected, but still blame those people for "not picking themselves up by their bootstraps". It's as though you haven't seen Trading Places.
JuanaMango 9y ago
Ratios eh? If over 90% of people killed by cops were armed, and the majority of those killed were during the commission of a crime one might come to the conclusion that armed commission of crimes is the leading cause of death by cop. Blacks commit murder at a ratio of 8 times that as white people. If anything black people are statistically under represented in police homicides
JuanaMango 9y ago
Ratios eh? If over 90% of people killed by cops were armed, and the majority of those killed, were killed during the commission of a crime one might come to the conclusion that armed commission of crimes is the leading cause of death by cop. African Americans commit murder at a ratio 8 times that of white people. If anything black people are statistically under represented in police homicides. _would love to hear_ what warranted the deletion of this post...
- sctb 9y ago
  Users flagged your previous post because it violates the guidelines by being unsubstantive flamebait. This kind of reductionism is dumb to begin with, and uncivil when applied to people. We've banned this account and we'll ban your main one if you continue. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
kolbe 9y ago
It seems pretty consistent with murder victim data. Even though Chicago is 32% black and 43% white, the vast vast majority of murder victims are black and occur in mostly black neighborhoods. I would think that police interactions with crime would follow this trend too. https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017-chicago-murders https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017-chicago-murders

DamnYuppie 9y ago

What you analysis fails to factor in is the number of crimes committed by each. In that regard blacks commit far more crimes then whites.

cannonedhamster 9y ago
Or Blacks get charged far more than whites, or that Blacks are policed more heavily, or that it has to do with poverty more than skin color, etc. The issue is that the data can't be conclusive unless you have an issue where you took two groups of people, gave them the same economic starting point, gave them the same systemic disadvantage, same opportunities and then could make a determination as to whether or not it has anything to do with culture. Or you could easily look into the fact that economically there is a long history of repressing people of color and that systemic collection of repressions them still exist leading to the exact outcome expected, but still blame those people for "not picking themselves up by their bootstraps". It's as though you haven't seen Trading Places.

JuanaMango 9y ago

Ratios eh? If over 90% of people killed by cops were armed, and the majority of those killed were during the commission of a crime one might come to the conclusion that armed commission of crimes is the leading cause of death by cop. Blacks commit murder at a ratio of 8 times that as white people. If anything black people are statistically under represented in police homicides

JuanaMango 9y ago

Ratios eh? If over 90% of people killed by cops were armed, and the majority of those killed, were killed during the commission of a crime one might come to the conclusion that armed commission of crimes is the leading cause of death by cop. African Americans commit murder at a ratio 8 times that of white people. If anything black people are statistically under represented in police homicides. _would love to hear_ what warranted the deletion of this post...

sctb 9y ago
Users flagged your previous post because it violates the guidelines by being unsubstantive flamebait. This kind of reductionism is dumb to begin with, and uncivil when applied to people. We've banned this account and we'll ban your main one if you continue. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

kolbe 9y ago

It seems pretty consistent with murder victim data. Even though Chicago is 32% black and 43% white, the vast vast majority of murder victims are black and occur in mostly black neighborhoods. I would think that police interactions with crime would follow this trend too. https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017-chicago-murders https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017-chicago-murders