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I was there earlier this year. The story is complex, but my understanding is that the main failure point was the local officials not wanting Arcosanti to exist

I was there earlier this year. The story is complex, but my understanding is that the main failure point was the local officials not wanting Arcosanti to exist and putting up regulatory barriers. It's worth noting that Soleri ran the project as a benevolent dictator, and when he fell into the poor health of old age most decisions stopped. He's recently past and left behind a bit of a power vacuum and the other people involved are reorganizing to deal with that. Coming out the other side of that reorg is an opportunity for change and it's too early to assume Arcosanti will stay in it's current form. They are basically blocked by money. If they could get enough money to pave the road to the property they could get building permits again. They need either a rich benefactor or a group of people interested in buying into the concept (and the leadership capacity to manage that).

Gargoyle 9y ago
I feel reasonably sure they could have gotten the money for a fair amount of additional growth, but I never had the sense they had the will for it.
brianshaler 9y ago
Even with paved access and a substantial budget, I'm not sure building permits would be feasible for any future construction. I don't know that they've been singled out by local officials so much as the original designs weren't forward compatible with modern (1980's+) building requirements. They've done a commendable job of trying to keep up with some modern advancements since the original designs were inked in the 60's. They have fiber optic internet access, some solar panels, and a few ADA-compliant ramps. My concerns would be more about integrity of the foundations. Modern surveying, concrete chemistry, and so on have raised the bar. I think there may have also been problems with routing utility lines with ventilation shafts and not having much of an alternative due to the structures being solid, load-bearing concrete. As an organization, I don't have very much faith in the leadership doing much more than barely staying afloat. There's a strong bias for seniority over meritocracy, which over the long term frustrates and deflects talented people with good ideas and favors people who just stick around or have don't have better alternatives.
- nkoren 9y ago
  > As an organization, I don't have very much faith in the leadership doing much more than barely staying afloat. There's a strong bias for seniority over meritocracy, which over the long term frustrates and deflects talented people with good ideas and favors people who just stick around or have don't have better alternatives. Upvoted for clearly knowing what you're talking about. :-) I built some of those foundations, back in the early 90s. Not much to worry about there -- they're tied straight into the basalt bedrock. Concerns about the extensibility and adaptability of the construction are well-placed however.
simonebrunozzi 9y ago
What you say is interesting. I am currently building a new company that will provide a platform to (among other things) run these types of crowdfunding efforts.

Gargoyle 9y ago

I feel reasonably sure they could have gotten the money for a fair amount of additional growth, but I never had the sense they had the will for it.

brianshaler 9y ago

Even with paved access and a substantial budget, I'm not sure building permits would be feasible for any future construction. I don't know that they've been singled out by local officials so much as the original designs weren't forward compatible with modern (1980's+) building requirements. They've done a commendable job of trying to keep up with some modern advancements since the original designs were inked in the 60's. They have fiber optic internet access, some solar panels, and a few ADA-compliant ramps. My concerns would be more about integrity of the foundations. Modern surveying, concrete chemistry, and so on have raised the bar. I think there may have also been problems with routing utility lines with ventilation shafts and not having much of an alternative due to the structures being solid, load-bearing concrete. As an organization, I don't have very much faith in the leadership doing much more than barely staying afloat. There's a strong bias for seniority over meritocracy, which over the long term frustrates and deflects talented people with good ideas and favors people who just stick around or have don't have better alternatives.

nkoren 9y ago
> As an organization, I don't have very much faith in the leadership doing much more than barely staying afloat. There's a strong bias for seniority over meritocracy, which over the long term frustrates and deflects talented people with good ideas and favors people who just stick around or have don't have better alternatives. Upvoted for clearly knowing what you're talking about. :-) I built some of those foundations, back in the early 90s. Not much to worry about there -- they're tied straight into the basalt bedrock. Concerns about the extensibility and adaptability of the construction are well-placed however.

simonebrunozzi 9y ago

What you say is interesting. I am currently building a new company that will provide a platform to (among other things) run these types of crowdfunding efforts.