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Here's my take. You can say you "feel" a certain way under any circumstance, heck I could say your comment feels threatening to me right now! The reason you n
by program_whiz 9y ago
Here's my take. You can say you "feel" a certain way under any circumstance, heck I could say your comment feels threatening to me right now! The reason you need hard evidence and can't just believe anything anyone says as proof is because in this case its matters of IP assignment and livelihood. I think I'd feel victimized if I was fired because my boss thought I was "harassing", even if there was no proof.
Who is the real victim? Obviously, we want to believe the woman who wrote the article, but bear in mind, her harassment is limited to a few text messages and emails.
On the other hand, our "villain" in this story has lost his coding, opportunities, and ideas that he contributed because he "wasn't a good fit".
One person has "gained" from the situation, although they claim to "feel" threatened, despite dubious proof. The other has had actual physical loss in the situation, and you're asking why can't we just believe her? What if the ideas he contributed turn out to make billions, is she still the victim for putting up with a few emails, and is he still just some victimizer for trying to stay involved?
Another reason we need to raise the bar is that believing these claims "on face" makes it all to easy to steal IP and exploit bosses/employees using harassment claims. I'm not saying that's what the article's author is doing, but it is a good reason to be skeptical (so prove to me you didn't just take this guy's work and claim you're the victim).
- openasocket 9y agoHonestly, I don't understand why people seem to care so much more about the IP issue than the alleged harassment and the lack of concern on the part of mentors about said harassment. Even if he was unfairly removed from the project (which I don't concede), his behavior is not acceptable, and mentors reactions to her claims are callous and inappropriate. > despite dubious proof Again, this is not a court of law, she isn't obligated to give the public proof that she was being harassed. > What if the ideas he contributed turn out to make billions He contributed a mock website and logo: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15587336 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15587336