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Why not just use a trusted solution like openvpn and only use providers who provide openvpn servers? That immediately gets rid of one half of your problem; and
by earenndil 9y ago
Why not just use a trusted solution like openvpn and only use providers who provide openvpn servers? That immediately gets rid of one half of your problem; and as for the other half, vpn services that allow for connections via openvpn are likely to be more trustworthy. In addition, the vpn company can't MitM connections which are already on an encrypted channel outside of the vpn conneciton.
- hultner 9y agoIsn't openvpn kind of a hack and a IKEv2/IPSEC based strongswan solution to prefer?
- joecool1029 9y agoDon't see why you're getting downvoted. From a user standpoint, IKEv2 doesn't require a secondary client and integrates with most major OS better. For example: It's way easier for a client to install a mobileconfig to ios that supports on demand VPN than it is to have them download and configure openvpn. Fairly set and forget.
- JetSpiegel 9y agoIKE is a nightmare to admin, only for Cisco level bureaucracies.
- MichaelGG 9y agoOpenVPN protocol is sorta weird (I wrote a clean room client and server impl). But IPSec stuff is such a pain to deal with that it is not worth it despite it having better OS integration.
- mirimir 9y agoIt's arguably no more a "hack" than TLS is one. Right? Re OpenVPN vs IKEv2/IPSec, this IVPN FAQ seems accurate.[0] But then, I helped edit it, so I'm biased. Still, if anyone can point to inaccuracies, I'll recommend fixing them :) The major weakness is pre-shared IKE keys. On the other hand, I get from IVPN that the IPSEC implementation in iOS is very secure. 0) https://www.ivpn.net/knowledgebase/160/Is-using-L2TPorIPSec-with-a-public-pre-shared-key-secure.html https://www.ivpn.net/knowledgebase/160/Is-using-L2TPorIPSec-...
- gowld 9y ago> use providers who provide openvpn servers how can you prove what the provider is using? people can lie
- benchaney 9y agoIt is irrelevant what software the provider is using as long as they use the openvpn protocol. This will be obvious to anyone who tries to connect using openvpn.
- thinkloop 9y agoCan you explain further, how can you be sure things weren't aded to the software?
- benchaney 9y agoTo the client side or the server side? On the client side, you should download the code from a location you trust. On the server side, it is irrelevant if something is added to the software for the attack we are discussing.
- thomnottom 9y agoYou can use your own OpenVPN client.
- flavor8 9y agoWhen you use a VPN service that supports openvpn, you: a) Install OpenVPN yourself (open source) b) Download an OpenVPN profile from the VPN company c) Configure OpenVPN with the profile Specifically, you don't have to install any binary software from the company itself.
- wyldfire 9y agoThis suggestion is intended to solve the "free VPN app installs malware" problem and not solve the "VPN provider who actually logs/is in league with govt/MPAA/etc" problem.