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Anvil looks like the Wix of python sites. personally, I'm going to stick to flask and django. this is nice and all... but you still have to learn python to ge

Anvil looks like the Wix of python sites. personally, I'm going to stick to flask and django. this is nice and all... but you still have to learn python to get it going. My preference is to learn Python/Flask via books, tutorials, and as part of a big community (websites/forums, IRC, etc). But... I really don't see the benefit of this, even after watching some videos. the drag and drop stuff? that's just html and css (child's play) python? that's still python. I'd much rather just open a blank Ubuntu 16.04 server on DigitalOcean and pull my repository from github. I.e. work like a real developer :) I wouldn't mess with Anvil, personally. I'd prefer to do code by hand, with a framework that has been around for a while.

sametmax 9y ago
I love Django and flask. I'm an expert at both. I train people at both. But come on. 6 minutes with DB, responsive design, registration (including social auth or AD) and online deployment ? I can't top that. No even close. Even with boostrap and pythonanywhere. And I know the freaking API by heart while most people are just trying to figure out what's going on. This stuff is amazing for somebody who just want to fiddle with a CRUD app. The ratio investment / return is crazy.
- kolanos 9y ago
  And the thing that a lot here are missing is the integration aspect. If you have team members who aren't coders, they can still participate with the drag-and-drop UI builder. Anvil is definitely on the right track here, I'm not a fan of drag-and-drop UI builders, but can definitely see how useful it would be for a product person on my team being able to jump in and make changes to the UI without needing to tap me on the shoulder. That being said, I'd prefer a code-based representation of the UI and didn't see anything like that -- would be interested in knowing if I can build UIs via code alone. Wish Django had a mature integrated client-side UI toolkit like this, I'm amazed given how advanced django.contrib.admin is that the Django team hasn't already generalized much of the admin components. If anyone is aware of something like this already let me know, with React eating the world it looks like DRF + React is the only way to go these days..
  - meredydd 9y ago
    > would be interested in knowing if I can build UIs via code alone Yes you can! Check out all the code examples in: https://anvil.works/doc#forms https://anvil.works/doc#forms

sametmax 9y ago

I love Django and flask. I'm an expert at both. I train people at both. But come on. 6 minutes with DB, responsive design, registration (including social auth or AD) and online deployment ? I can't top that. No even close. Even with boostrap and pythonanywhere. And I know the freaking API by heart while most people are just trying to figure out what's going on. This stuff is amazing for somebody who just want to fiddle with a CRUD app. The ratio investment / return is crazy.

kolanos 9y ago
And the thing that a lot here are missing is the integration aspect. If you have team members who aren't coders, they can still participate with the drag-and-drop UI builder. Anvil is definitely on the right track here, I'm not a fan of drag-and-drop UI builders, but can definitely see how useful it would be for a product person on my team being able to jump in and make changes to the UI without needing to tap me on the shoulder. That being said, I'd prefer a code-based representation of the UI and didn't see anything like that -- would be interested in knowing if I can build UIs via code alone. Wish Django had a mature integrated client-side UI toolkit like this, I'm amazed given how advanced django.contrib.admin is that the Django team hasn't already generalized much of the admin components. If anyone is aware of something like this already let me know, with React eating the world it looks like DRF + React is the only way to go these days..
- meredydd 9y ago
  > would be interested in knowing if I can build UIs via code alone Yes you can! Check out all the code examples in: https://anvil.works/doc#forms https://anvil.works/doc#forms