> They don't actually compete with each other, I don't even understand the comparison. Kubernetes uses docker. Kubernetes is scheduling and orchestration. It d

> They don't actually compete with each other, I don't even understand the comparison. Kubernetes uses docker. Kubernetes is scheduling and orchestration. It does compete with Docker, the company - it's a direct competitor of Swarm. Docker, the container technology, is the de facto standard container at this time. That may not always be the case. Kubernetes is not Docker-specific, thus his mentioning of the open container initiative. They are absolutely competitors.