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Please please please can we stop with the Rustacean/Gopher/etc crap? You don't need a cutesy label to identify that you use a tool. I enjoy Doctor Who (though
by reificator 9y ago
Please please please can we stop with the Rustacean/Gopher/etc crap? You don't need a cutesy label to identify that you use a tool.
I enjoy Doctor Who (though it's been getting worse for the last 5 or so years) but I do NOT want to be called a Whovian.
What's the first image that pops into your head when I say "Trekkie"? It's probably not someone with good health and hygiene, is it?
- staticelf 9y agoPeople like to label shit and themselves. No reason to fight it.
- dg_10 9y agoSure there is a reason: it stops me from using Rust and Go. I don't want to be part of a "movement".
- reificator 9y agoI can think of a few reasons to fight indoctrination, but you do you.
- Sean1708 9y agoIs it really indoctrination? Why?
- brango 9y agoYou could call yourself a Whoover.
- ghthor 9y agoCheck your hangups at the door man. I love being a gopher and a rustacean. I like being cute and having a cute name for myself and fellow community members. It's attitudes like this that created the massive gender divide in CS and it needs to end.
- reificator 9y agoI'm sorry, what? I apologize if it comes off as sexist, because that's not my intent. Cutesy labels trip my cultometer. Hard. It's a creepy indoctrination technique, and I'm incredibly uncomfortable with it, especially after having grown up in a very gaslit home.
- lucozade 9y agoIt's not entirely clear from your comment which gender(s) you were stereotyping. Could you elaborate?
- reificator 9y agoOn the (very cold) ride into work this morning I realized my mistake. I did not mean to say that being cute needs to go away. If you want to have a teddybear on your desk called Mr. Snuggles, that doesn't bother me in the least. What bothers me is cutesy labels like what we're talking about here. They're so commonly used in a manipulative manner that I have trouble seeing them as anything other than scary. I don't like them for when people watch TV or listen to music or use a programming language. And I despise them when companies try to act like there's a strong bond between employees by breaking them out. Very, very creepy. Please don't contribute to that. That's all I wanted to convey.
- 7scan 9y agoCan you provide examples of this manipulative manner in which they are used? I'm having a hard time understanding your justification.
- roel_v 9y agoIt's a common marketing tool nowadays. Many popular vloggers and DJ's who have made a name for themselves through social media do it too. They also use other shibboleths to foster an 'in-group' vs 'out-group' feeling, like hand signals, or just specific phrases used for signing off, or referring to themselves or other groups. I guess it appeals to some fundamental desire to 'belong'. Personally I think it's quite creepy and dystopian. Then again, is it worse than wearing t-shirts with the name of a software project on them outside of conferences about that specific software? That's kind of cringy/cultish too, when you look at it from the outside, but it doesn't feel that bad when large parts of your life revolve around that particular software.
- reificator 9y agoI don't like shirts or stickers for much the same reason.
- wyldfire 9y agoOk, then please don't opt in.
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- reificator 9y agoThat's a rather reductive approach to the current discussion, and has nothing to do with the original point. Once groups start being labeled it's no longer an opt in on the individual's level.
- OtterCoder 9y agoYep. I'm a programmer. I can use any number of buzzy labels to describe my skill set, and I'll cheer for Rust all day, but I'm just a programmer.