>Some of what I'm seeing isn't "try harder" but "look elsewhere." Fair enough. But where? >There is no shortage of gray-haired people at my job. My sysadmin j

>Some of what I'm seeing isn't "try harder" but "look elsewhere." Fair enough. But where? >There is no shortage of gray-haired people at my job. My sysadmin just retired. This was a sad day for me, which brings me to my other point: it's dumb to prefer youth over experience among programmers. List your company here. It might help somebody.