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That is an interesting assertion, what is it based on? My experience working for a year in Appalachia (late 90s) tells me that rural poor whites have a pretty

That is an interesting assertion, what is it based on? My experience working for a year in Appalachia (late 90s) tells me that rural poor whites have a pretty rough time of it, my experience tutoring in Cabrini Green (when it was still enormous, early 90s) taught me that poor minorities have it terrible as well. I have no idea how to compare the disadvantages each has to overcome, let alone quantify one set vs. another. I think the experience of the rural poor in this country is often overlooked compared to the inner city. They are in my experience both utterly pathological societies, I cannot imagine having the sustained discipline to escape either one.

eli 16y ago
Like I said, I think it should be based on class primarily (if not exclusively) instead of race. But there is still racism in this country and it overwhelmingly is against minorities.
- endtime 16y ago
  >But there is still racism in this country and it overwhelmingly is against minorities. The only racism I have ever experienced in the US has been from "minorities" (i.e. non-white people), usually directed toward white people.
  - dgabriel 16y ago
    That's because you are not a minority, and of course you don't see it on a daily basis. Out of curiosity, what sort of racism have you experienced?
    - endtime 16y ago
      A couple examples that come to mind are being referred to as a "white bastard" by a black woman on the street in Philly, simply for walking past her; and various anti-Semitism from black people preaching on the street in New York. I haven't personally interacted with any members of the Nation of Islam, but they're also racists. Also, my experience has been that Asian immigrants often dislike black people.
    - rick888 16y ago
      "That's because you are not a minority, and of course you don't see it on a daily basis. Out of curiosity, what sort of racism have you experienced?" Right. There's so much racism in the US. Every job I have ever had has had a mix of different races among its employees (not to mention the president of the United States). I've experienced racism first-hand as someone who is a non-minority. A couple of years ago, I went to a big boy in Atlanta, Georgia. The majority of the staff and patrons were black. It took them 45 minutes to an hour to get my food (people that clearly were there after me got their food much earlier). I also got a lot of stares. If this was the reverse, Al Sharpton would have been picketing outside to get the waitress fired. When will it end? I'm wondering when the minorities in this country will end their self-segregation. What I want in this country is equality (everyone has an equal shot at getting into things like universities IE: no extra points on the SATs/quotas based on race), but I don't think this will ever happen. It's also funny that Greek organizations are allowed to have entire fraternities based on race (asian, african-american, etc), but if a caucasian frat was founded, it would be considered racist. This isn't equality.
      - wan23 16y ago
        Without addressing your points specifically, you sound angry about the situation of race in America. Many people of all races have issues with the status quo. Some people express it directly, like for example taking longer to get your food. In America, it's safe to say that if you cross racial boundaries enough, you'll eventually run into some racism no matter what race you are. So yes, there is much racism in America, and you've seen it yourself. Only problem is, it's asymmetrical. You experienced it at a restaurant. Other likely places for someone like you might be at the laundromat, at school, at a party, at the post office. But it's unlikely at places like, at the bank, at a job interview (for a good job - not McDonalds), driving down the highway, etc. Because even though in America anyone can be racist, the people in positions that matter are more often white.
    - protomyth 16y ago
      I'm white, my biological father is Native American (Chippewa) and I grew up on a Sioux rez (an FYI Chippewa and Sioux / Dakota / Lakota are not friends). It doesn't matter what color your skin is if you grow up in an area where you are not the majority. I really find people who make a judgement based on a datum to be in error most of the time. You are <insert category here> so you have never truly experienced <insert social problem here>.
  - starkfist 16y ago
    In my experience, non-white vs. non-white racism is the most popular form of racism in the world today. It's long been uncouth for whites to hate blacks, but it's ok for blacks to hate mexicans, or chinese to hate koreans, or koreans to hate everybody.
  - qq66 16y ago
    LOL

eli 16y ago

Like I said, I think it should be based on class primarily (if not exclusively) instead of race. But there is still racism in this country and it overwhelmingly is against minorities.

endtime 16y ago
>But there is still racism in this country and it overwhelmingly is against minorities. The only racism I have ever experienced in the US has been from "minorities" (i.e. non-white people), usually directed toward white people.
- dgabriel 16y ago
  That's because you are not a minority, and of course you don't see it on a daily basis. Out of curiosity, what sort of racism have you experienced?
  - endtime 16y ago
    A couple examples that come to mind are being referred to as a "white bastard" by a black woman on the street in Philly, simply for walking past her; and various anti-Semitism from black people preaching on the street in New York. I haven't personally interacted with any members of the Nation of Islam, but they're also racists. Also, my experience has been that Asian immigrants often dislike black people.
  - rick888 16y ago
    "That's because you are not a minority, and of course you don't see it on a daily basis. Out of curiosity, what sort of racism have you experienced?" Right. There's so much racism in the US. Every job I have ever had has had a mix of different races among its employees (not to mention the president of the United States). I've experienced racism first-hand as someone who is a non-minority. A couple of years ago, I went to a big boy in Atlanta, Georgia. The majority of the staff and patrons were black. It took them 45 minutes to an hour to get my food (people that clearly were there after me got their food much earlier). I also got a lot of stares. If this was the reverse, Al Sharpton would have been picketing outside to get the waitress fired. When will it end? I'm wondering when the minorities in this country will end their self-segregation. What I want in this country is equality (everyone has an equal shot at getting into things like universities IE: no extra points on the SATs/quotas based on race), but I don't think this will ever happen. It's also funny that Greek organizations are allowed to have entire fraternities based on race (asian, african-american, etc), but if a caucasian frat was founded, it would be considered racist. This isn't equality.
    - wan23 16y ago
      Without addressing your points specifically, you sound angry about the situation of race in America. Many people of all races have issues with the status quo. Some people express it directly, like for example taking longer to get your food. In America, it's safe to say that if you cross racial boundaries enough, you'll eventually run into some racism no matter what race you are. So yes, there is much racism in America, and you've seen it yourself. Only problem is, it's asymmetrical. You experienced it at a restaurant. Other likely places for someone like you might be at the laundromat, at school, at a party, at the post office. But it's unlikely at places like, at the bank, at a job interview (for a good job - not McDonalds), driving down the highway, etc. Because even though in America anyone can be racist, the people in positions that matter are more often white.
  - protomyth 16y ago
    I'm white, my biological father is Native American (Chippewa) and I grew up on a Sioux rez (an FYI Chippewa and Sioux / Dakota / Lakota are not friends). It doesn't matter what color your skin is if you grow up in an area where you are not the majority. I really find people who make a judgement based on a datum to be in error most of the time. You are <insert category here> so you have never truly experienced <insert social problem here>.
- starkfist 16y ago
  In my experience, non-white vs. non-white racism is the most popular form of racism in the world today. It's long been uncouth for whites to hate blacks, but it's ok for blacks to hate mexicans, or chinese to hate koreans, or koreans to hate everybody.
- qq66 16y ago
  LOL