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People need to stop spreading this without even knowing what's going on, this is the kind of behavior that gets Trumps elected and creates mass histeria. What
by guhcampos 9y ago
People need to stop spreading this without even knowing what's going on, this is the kind of behavior that gets Trumps elected and creates mass histeria.
What that Portuguese ISP is selling has nothing to do with net neutrality per se. It's just a promotion, a marketing campaign, and a very common one around the world. I'm not saying it's okay or that it does not hurt competition, user choice and neutrality to some extent: but get your facts together before spreading half truths.
So for the facts: these are add-on packages to an otherwise common 10gb/mo mobile data plan. You don't get to buy them individually and they won't otherwise affect your plan. What they do is to make the access to the particular services in the list unlimited.
So you get your 10gb for everything, but maybe you watch a lot of Netflix and are willing to pay a few extra bucks to have it not counting a giants your data plan. That's all this is.
Again, I'm not saying this is fair, ideal or neutral, but it's also not what the article is saying it is. It's also more tailored to get such services users into the carrier business than the other way around. It's more like a "join us to use Netflix for free" than "we allow you to use Netflix only" kind of thing.
It is concerning to some extent, but it isn't new, exclusive to Portugal, or hurting the core concept of Net Neutrality at all, at least not directly. One might be right in argue that making some services cheaper is essentially the same as making other services more expensive - this being a clear violation of the neutrality concept - but it does not block, censure or otherwise limit access to any particular service or domain.
Call it an ethical loophole if you will, but please don't spread mass hysteria with images you can't read.
- corkraider 9y agoThat's not the way I interpret it. I think you get 10 GB of traffic to for example messaging apps for 5€ if you buy the messaging package. 10 GB of traffic to the rest of the internet is 20€. But yes as you said nobody really understands what's going on, this image is just used to manipulate people. We also have the same in Spain but since it cannot be captured in a screenshot it'll never be viral :) https://www.vodafone.es/c/particulares/es/tienda/movil/vodafone-pass/ https://www.vodafone.es/c/particulares/es/tienda/movil/vodaf...
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- andrepd 9y agoNope, you're totally wrong and it seems it's you that can't read. The 10GB/month is for these apps only, not for general-purpose use (you can still buy 10GB/mo of general internet, of course, but that sets you back 25€, if I'm not mistaken). And anyway, the point is that yes, this is a net neutrality violation. Giving dirt cheap data for use in the established giants' services only cements their rule and stifles innovation, by putting any newcomers on very unequal ground. Who the hell would watch a Netflix competitor if that means paying 5x more for data? That's what this is all about. So much superiority, so much tut-tutting, such a telling off, but it seems you got the "facts" wrong after all. And god knows what you mean by "this is what got Trump elected" (unless you mean lying through your teeth, then maybe you got that right).
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y agoA lot of words for "it's a violation of net neutrality that hurts competition and makes using non-mainstream services excessively expensive"!
- walshemj 9y agoand I am not sure if it doesn't violate eu law