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Such people are a minority of smokers around the world, and given how addictive nicotine is, probably fooling themselves. The average smoker is in the Asia Paci

Such people are a minority of smokers around the world, and given how addictive nicotine is, probably fooling themselves. The average smoker is in the Asia Pacific region, India, Indonesia, and Africa, and is impoverished. In those regions as elsewhere, socioeconomic class and education correlate with the lowest numbers of smokers.

topmonk 9y ago
> Such people are a minority of smokers around the world, and given how addictive nicotine is, probably fooling themselves Do you have statistics on that? Sounds a little suspect. > The average smoker is in the Asia Pacific region, India, Indonesia, and Africa, and is impoverished. Another vague statistic. I'm really curious, where'd you get it? >In those regions as elsewhere, socioeconomic class and education correlate with the lowest numbers of smokers. Poor people like different things than rich people? So what?
- QAPereo 9y ago
  So you do like “obscure statistics” after all! Good! https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/assets/global/pdfs/en/Global_Cigarette_Industry_pdf.pdf https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/assets/global/pdfs/en/Global... Your turn.
  - topmonk 9y ago
    > So you do like “obscure statistics” after all! Good! No, I just don't like people claiming a bunch of truths, with no data to back it up. Also, don't dump a bunch of propaganda on me and expect me to dig through it looking to verify your claims. Show me where in that does it say that the average smoker is "impoverished". Or that a majority of smokers around the world don't like to smoke, and are doing it simply because they are addicted.
- mlazos 9y ago
  The implication here is that a lack of education leads to a misunderstanding of the risks of smoking. Whether that implication is true or not doesn’t really matter though, you don’t agree that the notion of “choice” hardly matters when a substance as addictive as nicotine is involved?
  - topmonk 9y ago
    People have been smoking tobacco for thousands of years. I don't think it's become such a terrible vice in the last 10 that it must be banned.
    - QAPereo 9y ago
      Where are your citations?
      - topmonk 9y ago
        I didn't know I needed a citation for that. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/promotions/chi-ugc-article-british-international-school-of-chicago-linc-2017-08-02-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/promotions/chi-ugc-ar... > The history of cigarettes dates back to as early as 4000 BC in The South America.

topmonk 9y ago

> Such people are a minority of smokers around the world, and given how addictive nicotine is, probably fooling themselves Do you have statistics on that? Sounds a little suspect. > The average smoker is in the Asia Pacific region, India, Indonesia, and Africa, and is impoverished. Another vague statistic. I'm really curious, where'd you get it? >In those regions as elsewhere, socioeconomic class and education correlate with the lowest numbers of smokers. Poor people like different things than rich people? So what?

QAPereo 9y ago
So you do like “obscure statistics” after all! Good! https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/assets/global/pdfs/en/Global_Cigarette_Industry_pdf.pdf https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/assets/global/pdfs/en/Global... Your turn.
- topmonk 9y ago
  > So you do like “obscure statistics” after all! Good! No, I just don't like people claiming a bunch of truths, with no data to back it up. Also, don't dump a bunch of propaganda on me and expect me to dig through it looking to verify your claims. Show me where in that does it say that the average smoker is "impoverished". Or that a majority of smokers around the world don't like to smoke, and are doing it simply because they are addicted.
mlazos 9y ago
The implication here is that a lack of education leads to a misunderstanding of the risks of smoking. Whether that implication is true or not doesn’t really matter though, you don’t agree that the notion of “choice” hardly matters when a substance as addictive as nicotine is involved?
- topmonk 9y ago
  People have been smoking tobacco for thousands of years. I don't think it's become such a terrible vice in the last 10 that it must be banned.
  - QAPereo 9y ago
    Where are your citations?
    - topmonk 9y ago
      I didn't know I needed a citation for that. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/promotions/chi-ugc-article-british-international-school-of-chicago-linc-2017-08-02-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/promotions/chi-ugc-ar... > The history of cigarettes dates back to as early as 4000 BC in The South America.