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Are you serious? She brought her DSLR onto the campus and practically interviewed her dad. My guess is that he knew 100% what she was doing, thought that tellin

Are you serious? She brought her DSLR onto the campus and practically interviewed her dad. My guess is that he knew 100% what she was doing, thought that telling her “no” would have caused a bigger issue than “letting it be”...and was wrong.

aurizon 9y ago
true enough, I agree
jasonlotito 9y ago
So, other Apple employees are getting fired too, right? I mean, if filming is not allowed, how did she get a camera in there in the first place? People other than her father didn't do their job, clearly, and if a kid can sneak a digital device into Apple into a location that is apparently intended to be highly secure, then I'm forced to question their sincerity in how much emphasis they put on security. Clearly, it's lacking in serious ways.
- hitiki35 9y ago
  Clearly we should just fire all police officers since there is still crime. They aren't doing their jobs!
- Thiez 9y ago
  > I mean, if filming is not allowed, how did she get a camera in there in the first place? You're not allowed to stab people in the supermarket I frequent, and yet there's nobody standing at the door frisking all the customers. > People other than her father didn't do their job, clearly, and if a kid can sneak a digital device into Apple into a location that is apparently intended to be highly secure, then I'm forced to question their sincerity in how much emphasis they put on security. They probably evaluated the situation and decided that rather than turn their facility in a well-defended fortress, they would simply make it clear to their employees what isn't allowed and expect them to do the right thing most of the time, and accept that sometimes the rules will get broken. That this story counts as news proves that their approach works very well most of the time. Besides, these iPhones have cameras, if you can get on campus and get your hands on two of them, you could easily create a video and upload it, without ever bringing your own camera.
  - jasonlotito 9y ago
    > You're not allowed to stab people in the supermarket I frequent, and yet there's nobody standing at the door frisking all the customers. Because stabbings aren't expected there, but shop lifting is, which is why they actively work to prevent that via different methods such as mirrors and cameras. The same thing applies here. > they would simply make it clear to their employees what isn't allowed and expect them to do the right thing most of the time Well, clearly this isn't what happened. After all, the filming didn't get him fired. Rather, it was the posting of the video after review copies had been sent out. He probably thought it was fine. So clearly Apple's approach isn't working. > That this story counts as news proves that their approach works very well most of the time. Let's apply that same standard to something like Equifax. Sorry, but Apple went overboard here.
    - kelnos 9y ago
      > After all, the filming didn't get him fired. Rather, it was the posting of the video after review copies had been sent out. Likely they did fire him for just the act of (allowing) filming, but didn't know about the video until it was posted. > He probably thought it was fine. I sincerely doubt that. Apple employees have it drilled into their heads that this sort of thing is absolutely not ok, and have signed legal agreements to that effect. Hell, a friend of mine who often has very-pre-release versions of iOS on his phone at times doesn't even allow anyone else to touch his phone, based on the rules that have been laid out for him by Apple. He doesn't even let other Apple employees touch his phone unless they're also internally cleared to see what's in those pre-releases. > Sorry, but Apple went overboard here. They went overboard by... enforcing the terms of their employment agreement? No, they were perfectly justified here.

aurizon 9y ago

true enough, I agree

jasonlotito 9y ago

So, other Apple employees are getting fired too, right? I mean, if filming is not allowed, how did she get a camera in there in the first place? People other than her father didn't do their job, clearly, and if a kid can sneak a digital device into Apple into a location that is apparently intended to be highly secure, then I'm forced to question their sincerity in how much emphasis they put on security. Clearly, it's lacking in serious ways.

hitiki35 9y ago
Clearly we should just fire all police officers since there is still crime. They aren't doing their jobs!
Thiez 9y ago
> I mean, if filming is not allowed, how did she get a camera in there in the first place? You're not allowed to stab people in the supermarket I frequent, and yet there's nobody standing at the door frisking all the customers. > People other than her father didn't do their job, clearly, and if a kid can sneak a digital device into Apple into a location that is apparently intended to be highly secure, then I'm forced to question their sincerity in how much emphasis they put on security. They probably evaluated the situation and decided that rather than turn their facility in a well-defended fortress, they would simply make it clear to their employees what isn't allowed and expect them to do the right thing most of the time, and accept that sometimes the rules will get broken. That this story counts as news proves that their approach works very well most of the time. Besides, these iPhones have cameras, if you can get on campus and get your hands on two of them, you could easily create a video and upload it, without ever bringing your own camera.
- jasonlotito 9y ago
  > You're not allowed to stab people in the supermarket I frequent, and yet there's nobody standing at the door frisking all the customers. Because stabbings aren't expected there, but shop lifting is, which is why they actively work to prevent that via different methods such as mirrors and cameras. The same thing applies here. > they would simply make it clear to their employees what isn't allowed and expect them to do the right thing most of the time Well, clearly this isn't what happened. After all, the filming didn't get him fired. Rather, it was the posting of the video after review copies had been sent out. He probably thought it was fine. So clearly Apple's approach isn't working. > That this story counts as news proves that their approach works very well most of the time. Let's apply that same standard to something like Equifax. Sorry, but Apple went overboard here.
  - kelnos 9y ago
    > After all, the filming didn't get him fired. Rather, it was the posting of the video after review copies had been sent out. Likely they did fire him for just the act of (allowing) filming, but didn't know about the video until it was posted. > He probably thought it was fine. I sincerely doubt that. Apple employees have it drilled into their heads that this sort of thing is absolutely not ok, and have signed legal agreements to that effect. Hell, a friend of mine who often has very-pre-release versions of iOS on his phone at times doesn't even allow anyone else to touch his phone, based on the rules that have been laid out for him by Apple. He doesn't even let other Apple employees touch his phone unless they're also internally cleared to see what's in those pre-releases. > Sorry, but Apple went overboard here. They went overboard by... enforcing the terms of their employment agreement? No, they were perfectly justified here.