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> How dystopian You're objecting to an aesthetic, not frankly anything of substance. Very few restaurant kitchens are particularly pleasant places to work, oft
by mseebach 9y ago
> How dystopian
You're objecting to an aesthetic, not frankly anything of substance. Very few restaurant kitchens are particularly pleasant places to work, often cramped (because they take up square feet in prime real estate) and very hot. Three staff in a container seems comparatively spacious.
Also, when The Guardian struggles to find other fault than temperature and lack of appropriate council permits, that's about as strong a confirmation of adequate working conditions you're likely to find.
- timthelion 9y agoOh, if the work conditions are usually terrible than I guess it's fine.
- tolien 9y agoA related article [1] suggests there's "room for six or seven chefs" which sounds like a rather more cramped setup than three. One wonders, given they don't seem to have bothered with planning permission, whether any consideration's been given to fire safety either. 1: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/08/deliveroo-battles-councils-over-pop-up-takeaway-food-kitchens https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/08/deliveroo-b...
- timthelion 9y agoAre there really fire safety concerns in such small spaces?
- tolien 9y agoWorking beside a pizza oven, gas stoves and hot cooking oil? I guess the concern is "if it catches fire, you're dead" but it's still an issue... Edit: small spaces and hot cooking oil, youch - have the restaurants employing these chefs told their insurers that they're doing this?
- subway 9y agohttps://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/bikini-barista-dies-after-fire-at-everett-coffee-stand/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/bikini-barista-die... Yes.
- contingencies 9y agothey don't seem to have bothered with planning permission Temporary structures typically fall under different regulations. This is true in almost any market globally. (Source: Half of my family are architects and my brother is an urban design expert, which is sort of like privatized city planning)
- tolien 9y agoI was going from this quote from the article I linked to: > Cllr Mark Williams, cabinet member for regeneration and new homes, said: “The council is concerned by Deliveroo’s use of the Valmar Road trading estate as their kitchen pods are close to people’s homes, are clearly disturbing the residents and they didn’t apply for the necessary planning permission. > “We have served a planning enforcement notice that requires Deliveroo to stop preparing and delivering food from the site. We encourage them to work with us and listen to local residents so that we can find a long-term solution.” Southwark is also investigating the setup of three Deliveroo pods in a car park in east Dulwich. But yeah, I'd anticipate a temporary construction would be regulated differently. How temporary are these though? (in anything other than a "if the locals get a bit too bothersome, we'll move it to a different borough" sense).
- contingencies 9y agoIf it doesn't have foundations and/or simply floats on a slab, it's generally considered temporary. I wonder about the utilities, though. The more you have connected, the less argument you have for temporary. The mention of gas bottles suggest they're playing this smart.
- FireBeyond 9y ago> The mention of gas bottles suggest they're playing this smart. Or that a gas company has zero interest in (or desire to?) establish a gas line to a shipping container, let alone one with an industrial kitchen in it.
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