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Because it's not their money. They can't make money where a functioning society does not exist. This is a very old news. You'd be grunting and chortling with

Because it's not their money. They can't make money where a functioning society does not exist. This is a very old news. You'd be grunting and chortling without a society. Even in remote places, they have a language and a bit of knowledge to pass along if you're halfway decent to the group.

gozur88 9y ago
No, it really is their money. Property ownership is a core tenet of any civilized society, and you'd be "grunting and chortling" without it.
- state_less 9y ago
  Try telling that to someone whose had their assets frozen. Ill gotten gains are frozen all the time in a civilized society, that includes not paying for upkeep (taxes), lest we descend into savagery.
  - gozur88 9y ago
    If you've done something illegal you can be assessed all sorts of penalties. But if you've come by your money legally, it's your money. It's not society's money. And it doesn't belong to your fellow citizens because, well, they want it.
    - state_less 9y ago
      Well it does belong to them, because it's only through them that money has meaning. Society may decide they don't owe you anything, if you don't feel you owe them anything.
      - gozur88 9y ago
        Well, I suppose you could have a society peopled by thieves.
refurb 9y ago
Because it's not their money. That's pretty counter to how America operates. The gov't operates at the behest of the citizens of the US. Any income you make is yours, thus the gov't has an obligations to spend it in a responsible manner. I think that's why so many Americans complain about taxes. If it was spent wisely and people felt they got good value for their tax dollars I'm sure the complaining wouldn't be as loud.
- state_less 9y ago
  > The gov't operates at the behest of the citizens of the US. Then why are lobbyist surrounding the capital with wads of cash? If wealthy interests didn't get a return on investment, they wouldn't keep investing. And since they are coming back and they do get a return on investment, then the government isn't serving the citizens but rather the patrons. For this reason, the citizens won't get a great return on their tax dollars. The problem seems to be getting worse rather than better. That's how America operates. We can still turn it around though, I hope.

gozur88 9y ago

No, it really is their money. Property ownership is a core tenet of any civilized society, and you'd be "grunting and chortling" without it.

state_less 9y ago
Try telling that to someone whose had their assets frozen. Ill gotten gains are frozen all the time in a civilized society, that includes not paying for upkeep (taxes), lest we descend into savagery.
- gozur88 9y ago
  If you've done something illegal you can be assessed all sorts of penalties. But if you've come by your money legally, it's your money. It's not society's money. And it doesn't belong to your fellow citizens because, well, they want it.
  - state_less 9y ago
    Well it does belong to them, because it's only through them that money has meaning. Society may decide they don't owe you anything, if you don't feel you owe them anything.
    - gozur88 9y ago
      Well, I suppose you could have a society peopled by thieves.

refurb 9y ago

Because it's not their money. That's pretty counter to how America operates. The gov't operates at the behest of the citizens of the US. Any income you make is yours, thus the gov't has an obligations to spend it in a responsible manner. I think that's why so many Americans complain about taxes. If it was spent wisely and people felt they got good value for their tax dollars I'm sure the complaining wouldn't be as loud.

state_less 9y ago
> The gov't operates at the behest of the citizens of the US. Then why are lobbyist surrounding the capital with wads of cash? If wealthy interests didn't get a return on investment, they wouldn't keep investing. And since they are coming back and they do get a return on investment, then the government isn't serving the citizens but rather the patrons. For this reason, the citizens won't get a great return on their tax dollars. The problem seems to be getting worse rather than better. That's how America operates. We can still turn it around though, I hope.