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Wow, this was really well-written, and hit on so many excellent points. I'd love to quote your comment elsewhere, if you don't mind. I find it really sad when
by winter_blue 9y ago
Wow, this was really well-written, and hit on so many excellent points. I'd love to quote your comment elsewhere, if you don't mind.
I find it really sad when some people think that the basic ideas of the Enlightenment are somehow "Western". They originated in the West, but they are absolutely and in no way linked to any notion of "Western culture".
As some that's mildly libertarian leaning, I'd say the core ideals of Enlightenment are universal moral principles that are objectively good, and workable for any human society.
For example, the principle of free speech boils down to this simple concept: Don't commit acts of violence against someone because they __said__ something you don't like (with emphasis on "said"). This is not a hard concept to grasp.
When some culture claims that such a principle (like free speech) is not "compatible" with their culture, it's a cop-out, and an excuse for some group of people to continue maintaining power, or something like it.
- kobeya 9y ago> I'd love to quote your comment elsewhere, if you don't mind. Sure. > [the ideas of the Englightenment] originated in the West I would say they first took root and lasted long enough to have impact in the West. As you say, the ideas of the Enlightenment are universal moral principles that aren't really tied to specific culture, a sort of political version of the Golden Rule. It might even have been the state of nature before agriculture and townships gave rise to kingships and states. We didn't used to be slaves to The Man. To harp on the theme of this thread, things could have gone very differently if Mo Di's philosophy became the official state belief instead of Confucius' legalism: https://www.ancient.eu/Mo_Ti/ https://www.ancient.eu/Mo_Ti/