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I was reading the USNews CS ranking yesterday, got really surprised that apparently some Chinese universities are now considered as the best in CS. top 20 list

I was reading the USNews CS ranking yesterday, got really surprised that apparently some Chinese universities are now considered as the best in CS. top 20 list: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/search?region=&subject=computer-science&name= https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/se... https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/computer-science?page=2 https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/co...

killjoywashere 9y ago
Keep in mind they also have some pretty significant plagarism and pay-to-publish problems.
- yorison 9y ago
  Keep in mind it's the lower end schools that have the plagarism and pay-to-publish problems. The top schools never had this problem.
tooltalk 9y ago
Well, it's interesting to see that the USNews ranks Harvard ahead of UCBerkeley. Back when I used to work at a quant shop in NYC, Harvard wasn't even considered for hiring -- they only recruited from MIT, CMU, UIUC, Berkeley, Stanford and UToronto. Also, not surprisingly, most quants were Chinese.
- barry-cotter 9y ago
  Trust your own expertise. I can’t find the paper where I got this from but if you rank CS departments by where professors got their doctorates and where they end up teaching the basically equal top four were Carnegie Mellon, MIT, Berkeley and Stanford. Which four would round out the world Top 10? Georgia Tech? Aren’t a ton of quants French as well?
randcraw 9y ago
Caveat: the US News rankings are famously cooked and unreliable. You'd expect that from a cash cow that singularly keeps the US News brand alive, as well as the deliberate efforts of universities to drive up their brand's rank. According to Wiki, three more independent and open source of rankings are the Acad. Ranking of World Univs, Times Higher Education, and Quaccquarelli Symonds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_and_university_rankings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_and_university_ranking... The Chronicle of Higher Education is also a well-regarded rater, esp. in assessment of research. http://www.chronicle.com/article/The-World-University-Rankings/141971 http://www.chronicle.com/article/The-World-University-Rankin...

killjoywashere 9y ago

Keep in mind they also have some pretty significant plagarism and pay-to-publish problems.

yorison 9y ago
Keep in mind it's the lower end schools that have the plagarism and pay-to-publish problems. The top schools never had this problem.

tooltalk 9y ago

Well, it's interesting to see that the USNews ranks Harvard ahead of UCBerkeley. Back when I used to work at a quant shop in NYC, Harvard wasn't even considered for hiring -- they only recruited from MIT, CMU, UIUC, Berkeley, Stanford and UToronto. Also, not surprisingly, most quants were Chinese.

barry-cotter 9y ago
Trust your own expertise. I can’t find the paper where I got this from but if you rank CS departments by where professors got their doctorates and where they end up teaching the basically equal top four were Carnegie Mellon, MIT, Berkeley and Stanford. Which four would round out the world Top 10? Georgia Tech? Aren’t a ton of quants French as well?

randcraw 9y ago

Caveat: the US News rankings are famously cooked and unreliable. You'd expect that from a cash cow that singularly keeps the US News brand alive, as well as the deliberate efforts of universities to drive up their brand's rank. According to Wiki, three more independent and open source of rankings are the Acad. Ranking of World Univs, Times Higher Education, and Quaccquarelli Symonds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_and_university_rankings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_and_university_ranking... The Chronicle of Higher Education is also a well-regarded rater, esp. in assessment of research. http://www.chronicle.com/article/The-World-University-Rankings/141971 http://www.chronicle.com/article/The-World-University-Rankin...