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The UK government did exactly that and got a no vote to the Scottish independence. The Brexit vote was full-on farce, people literally had no idea what they we
by johnnyfaehell 9y ago
The UK government did exactly that and got a no vote to the Scottish independence.
The Brexit vote was full-on farce, people literally had no idea what they were voting yes to. How could they, there was no plan.
- PeachPlum 9y agoThe plan was laid out clearly. The question asked of the electorate was also clear. February 2016 The process for withdrawing from the European Union Presented to Parliament by the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs by Command of Her Majesty https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/504216/The_process_for_withdrawing_from_the_EU_print_ready.pdf https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachm... 2.1 The result of the referendum on the UK’s membership of the European Union will be final. The Government would have a democratic duty to give effect to the electorate’s decision. The Prime Minister made clear to the House of Commons that “if the British people vote to leave, there is only one way to bring that about, namely to trigger Article 50 of the Treaties and begin the process of exit, and the British people would rightly expect that to start straight away”. The referendum question, June 2016 : --- Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union? [ ] Remain a member of the European Union [ ] Leave the European Union --- Of the votes cast 51.9% Leave (17,410,742), 48.1% Remain (16,141,241) Electorate 46,501,241 37.4% of the electorate voted to leave 34.7% of the electorate voted to remain
- marcosscriven 9y agoI don’t think it’s valid to claim the non voters in an aggregate 65%. Otherwise you could say 68% of the country didn’t vote to leave. Which presumably means it was a stronger position. Edit - I see you removed that claim.
- PeachPlum 9y agoYes, I was copy pasting my post from elsewhere which was in response to the opposite claim :)
- liberte82 9y ago68% also didn't vote to stay. It always gets silly when you try to make arguments about vote percentages based on the entire population because they always work completely in reverse as well.
- marcosscriven 9y agoAgree entirely, that was my point.
- andrewaylett 9y agoNotice that for all the Catalan low turnout has been hyped, they've actually got a higher proportion of the electorate than voted for Brexit: 43.03% * 91.96% = 39.57%
- dnautics 9y agoAnd they had uniformed thugs trying to prevent the vote outside many of the polling sites. A 40% turnout is remarkable.
- johnnyfaehell 9y ago21 pages, is not a plan. The Scottish independence plan was 500 pages or something. Also, that "plan" merely states they will trigger article 50. Not what they will do after that. Which is the important part of the whole process. There was no talk of soft or hard brexit. No talk of how much it would cost, no talk about anything other than "We'll trigger article 50". Which it actually turned out, the plan was flawed because they legally couldn't do it and had to create a new law.
- dageshi 9y agoThe UK public has historically been one of the most eurosceptic countries in europe and certainly the most eurosceptic in the EU. When given an actual chance to vote on the issue amazingly the British public followed through... who could possibly have seen that coming? The farce is that people who should've known that were somehow shocked by it.
- ealexhudson 9y agoOnly in recent history. Post-war through to the eighties, it was pro-Europe and influential in Europe (at least, the EC, etc.)