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The side supporting "yes" perpetrates equal amounts of violence. Is just the propaganda machine is much more developed on that side (with the money from all Spa

The side supporting "yes" perpetrates equal amounts of violence. Is just the propaganda machine is much more developed on that side (with the money from all Spaniards...)

ryanlol 9y ago
Show examples. https://spanishpolice.github.io/ https://spanishpolice.github.io/
- alvatar 9y ago
  As I said, the propaganda machine is more developed in one side. The story is related by those who have a stronger interest. I've indeed seen videos of violence against those who don't think like the independentist. And I've lived in the region for 6 years, there are many other forms of violence as well. But you can look it up on the internet. You won't find a web index with hundreds of videos though, that doesn't surprise me.
  - yellowapple 9y ago
    "I've indeed seen videos of violence against those who don't think like the independentist." Do you have any links to specific videos?
- wst_ 9y ago
  Interesting that this page title is "Videos of the Repression lived in Catalonia by the Spanish Police" while the video shows in most cases professional work of the force, especially considering the behavior of crowd. I don't want to take any sides, but know this - crowd plus emotions might turn into something dangerous. We should put emotions aside and then consider the situation. I am not telling that what happened was good, but sometimes you must choose the lesser eveil.
matthewmacleod 9y ago
I’m not there, so I can’t say for sure, but those I know in Catalonia have been pretty clear that this isn’t the case.
Silhouette 9y ago
The side supporting "yes" perpetrates equal amounts of violence. Really? I didn't see the footage of the Mossos throwing people who weren't in favour of independence down stairs or dragging them around by their hair. Where do I find it?
icebraining 9y ago
Is just the propaganda machine is much more developed on that side Thus supporting the case that Catalonia is being dragged down by Spain - even their propaganda machines are better! :D
- alvatar 9y ago
  Thank you for polarizing into "better and worse" humans.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    It's called a joke. I'm a descendant of Galicians myself.
    - alvatar 9y ago
      No times for jokes when the whole country is a mess due to a nationalist movement.
  - dang 9y ago
    This breaks the HN guidelines. Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - alvatar 9y ago
    I apologize for my interpretation and response. It wouldn't be the first time that I read or hear comments of Catalans being superior to the rest of the Spanish.
alvatar 9y ago
You can keep downvoting me for thinking differently from what is seen is media. No, I admit it, there was shameful violence that day. But there is also daily violence against those who think differently and don't support the nationalist and xenophobic ideas behind the independentist movements. Of course, that's not admitted openly.
farresito 9y ago
Source?

The side supporting "yes" perpetrates equal amounts of violence. Is just the propaganda machine is much more developed on that side (with the money from all Spaniards...)

ryanlol 9y ago

Show examples. https://spanishpolice.github.io/ https://spanishpolice.github.io/

alvatar 9y ago
As I said, the propaganda machine is more developed in one side. The story is related by those who have a stronger interest. I've indeed seen videos of violence against those who don't think like the independentist. And I've lived in the region for 6 years, there are many other forms of violence as well. But you can look it up on the internet. You won't find a web index with hundreds of videos though, that doesn't surprise me.
- yellowapple 9y ago
  "I've indeed seen videos of violence against those who don't think like the independentist." Do you have any links to specific videos?
wst_ 9y ago
Interesting that this page title is "Videos of the Repression lived in Catalonia by the Spanish Police" while the video shows in most cases professional work of the force, especially considering the behavior of crowd. I don't want to take any sides, but know this - crowd plus emotions might turn into something dangerous. We should put emotions aside and then consider the situation. I am not telling that what happened was good, but sometimes you must choose the lesser eveil.

matthewmacleod 9y ago

I’m not there, so I can’t say for sure, but those I know in Catalonia have been pretty clear that this isn’t the case.

Silhouette 9y ago

The side supporting "yes" perpetrates equal amounts of violence. Really? I didn't see the footage of the Mossos throwing people who weren't in favour of independence down stairs or dragging them around by their hair. Where do I find it?

icebraining 9y ago

Is just the propaganda machine is much more developed on that side Thus supporting the case that Catalonia is being dragged down by Spain - even their propaganda machines are better! :D

alvatar 9y ago
Thank you for polarizing into "better and worse" humans.
- icebraining 9y ago
  It's called a joke. I'm a descendant of Galicians myself.
  - alvatar 9y ago
    No times for jokes when the whole country is a mess due to a nationalist movement.
- dang 9y ago
  This breaks the HN guidelines. Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- alvatar 9y ago
  I apologize for my interpretation and response. It wouldn't be the first time that I read or hear comments of Catalans being superior to the rest of the Spanish.

alvatar 9y ago

You can keep downvoting me for thinking differently from what is seen is media. No, I admit it, there was shameful violence that day. But there is also daily violence against those who think differently and don't support the nationalist and xenophobic ideas behind the independentist movements. Of course, that's not admitted openly.

farresito 9y ago

Source?