4 ms·

Agree there are lots of clear cut cases. But, for example, would you consider articles that are talk about climate change (either for or against it's existence)

by tqi 9y ago

Agree there are lots of clear cut cases. But, for example, would you consider articles that are talk about climate change (either for or against it's existence) fake or biased news?

deleted 9y ago
[deleted]
mattferderer 9y ago
Not the perfect solution but I would prefer one like Wikipedia & others use. Allow flagging by users if a news story lacks citations or credible references. Uphold all journalism to a higher standard. For the most popular stories on Facebook have a trained employee from Facebook research it or crowd base it with users you trust. Show users a message that says whether the news article has been marked as false, questionable or verified. Facebook could even charge money for instant review & verification to news outlets. As machine learning gets better & has more use cases to look at, they could possibly offload the work from humans as well.
krapp 9y ago
To me, unless there is outright fabrication or an intent to deceive on the part of the original reporting source, it isn't fake news.
SimbaOnSteroids 9y ago
Climate change might not have been the best example as its a closed and shut case from a scientific perspective. Maybe the merits of doing anything about it would be a better example?
- ams6110 9y ago
  "Closed and shut" seems to me to be exactly NOT the point of view of science. If someone came along with another theory that fit observations better than current theories do, would you want science to reject it because that particular subject is considered "closed and shut?"
  - SimbaOnSteroids 9y ago
    You knew what I meant as well as would anyone else that reads HN, no need to be pedantic.
- tqi 9y ago
  Actually I chose that specifically because I think that it is a "closed and shut case". Yet many right leaning outlets like Fox News or National Review routinely cast doubt on this. Do you think they should be considered Fake News? Who gets to make that call?
  - mrguyorama 9y ago
    "Fake News"ness can have article level granularity. Fox can have perfectly accurate reporting of an event, and then still be considered fake when they incorrectly state that there is "controversy" over global warming

by tqi 9y ago

Agree there are lots of clear cut cases. But, for example, would you consider articles that are talk about climate change (either for or against it's existence) fake or biased news?

deleted 9y ago

[deleted]

mattferderer 9y ago

Not the perfect solution but I would prefer one like Wikipedia & others use. Allow flagging by users if a news story lacks citations or credible references. Uphold all journalism to a higher standard. For the most popular stories on Facebook have a trained employee from Facebook research it or crowd base it with users you trust. Show users a message that says whether the news article has been marked as false, questionable or verified. Facebook could even charge money for instant review & verification to news outlets. As machine learning gets better & has more use cases to look at, they could possibly offload the work from humans as well.

krapp 9y ago

To me, unless there is outright fabrication or an intent to deceive on the part of the original reporting source, it isn't fake news.

SimbaOnSteroids 9y ago

Climate change might not have been the best example as its a closed and shut case from a scientific perspective. Maybe the merits of doing anything about it would be a better example?

ams6110 9y ago
"Closed and shut" seems to me to be exactly NOT the point of view of science. If someone came along with another theory that fit observations better than current theories do, would you want science to reject it because that particular subject is considered "closed and shut?"
- SimbaOnSteroids 9y ago
  You knew what I meant as well as would anyone else that reads HN, no need to be pedantic.
tqi 9y ago
Actually I chose that specifically because I think that it is a "closed and shut case". Yet many right leaning outlets like Fox News or National Review routinely cast doubt on this. Do you think they should be considered Fake News? Who gets to make that call?
- mrguyorama 9y ago
  "Fake News"ness can have article level granularity. Fox can have perfectly accurate reporting of an event, and then still be considered fake when they incorrectly state that there is "controversy" over global warming