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If I assume that RT is a propaganda tube (which I do), there's nothing to be carried away by here. For people living in communist countries, there was an impor
by akavel 9y ago
If I assume that RT is a propaganda tube (which I do), there's nothing to be carried away by here.
For people living in communist countries, there was an important mental exercise: if Russian media claim something, let's start by assuming, that most probably something exactly opposite happened!!!
- emodendroket 9y agoRT obviously has an angle but it isn't Pravda.
- dmix 9y agoWaPo/NYTimes has a very obvious agenda as well and thinks nothing of citing anonymous government sources in puffy articles. I'm struggling to see the difference here, other than Jack/Twitter doesn't care that it has an agenda or is influenced by a government, but they disagree with the particular agenda... Yes RT is worse, but it's also more overt, this divide will always be full of shades of gray not black/white. It's a very dangerous road to travel down, letting Twitter be the arbiter of news orgs, and if this is going to be limited to simply Russia and not hundreds of other news orgs then it's quite obvious it has it's own agenda as well.
- emodendroket 9y agoYes, that's kind of how I feel too.
- cat199 9y agononono, you have it all wrong, my aganda is 'objective truth from an unbiased source' but your agenda is propaganda
- emodendroket 9y agoAll sources have an agenda beyond objective truth. Influence is a lot more subtle than just the obvious maneuver of publishing outright falsehoods. Through emphasis and omission you can easily mislead people without ever saying anything untrue. Assuming the reporter hasn't been lied to by his sources in the first place.
- berbec 9y ago+1
- usrusr 9y agoPravda was a complete failure in terms of influencing an international audience. RT is not repeating mistakes.
- emodendroket 9y agoWhat is someone supposed to say to this, really? Yes, RT has much more credibility in the US and Europe than Pravda, but that is probably because, while hewing to an alternate viewpoint, they're doing actual reporting, and not just operating as a mindless propaganda outlet.
- usrusr 9y agoAre you saying that being a mindless propaganda outlet was not the reason Pravda never succeeded in influencing anybody in the west? The entire point of learning from that is that you have to build credibility. I think you are reading far more into my post than I wrote.
- emodendroket 9y agoNo, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that to be taken seriously they have to be serious, and they are serious enough that it doesn't make sense to talk about them like they're InfoWars.