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Actually, outside of Twitter arguments and comment section accusations, I think the real definition of fake news is news that is either partially or totally fab

Actually, outside of Twitter arguments and comment section accusations, I think the real definition of fake news is news that is either partially or totally fabricated and presented as fact. For example, "Obama signs executive order banning the national anthem", or "Trump claims victory after Castro's death! 'I did it!'". These are untrue irrespective of the current incumbent... In fact, your conflation of true fake news with "politically slanted journalist" is one reason it has such power. People just assume that they are reading real news that caters to their interests and doesn't cloud the truth like the "other guys," when in fact they may be reading and sharing complete nonsense.

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erikb 9y ago
"fake news is news that is [...] partially [...] fabricated" that is ALL news not fake news. All news are written to influence you in one direction or another. There's always stuff that is left unspoken or added and things that are expressed this way or the other. Example: Pro-Saudi news says "The people fight against Assad terror regime in Syria" and pro-Iran news says "Syrian government fights against terrorists" (that were the stories about 2014 if I remember correctly). Depending on which side you stand articles with your phrasing are the "news" and articles with the other phrasing are the "fake news". The truth would have been "ongoing battle between Iran and Saudi Arabia for leadership of the Arab/Persian world". I don't remember a single news paper reporting that in US, Europe, Russia, China or local.
- sk0g 9y ago
  Pointless argument, so people can make up completely random stories, and as long as there's a tiny portion of truth, such as say person A being referred to actually existing, it should be considered news? I'm sure even you don't believe that though, people seem to enjoy making pointless arguments a bit too much, at times.
  - erikb 9y ago
    No the other way around. You interpret my statement as "how to define what should be considered news" while I'm saying "what you consider news is not better than fake news but just as fake".

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erikb 9y ago

"fake news is news that is [...] partially [...] fabricated" that is ALL news not fake news. All news are written to influence you in one direction or another. There's always stuff that is left unspoken or added and things that are expressed this way or the other. Example: Pro-Saudi news says "The people fight against Assad terror regime in Syria" and pro-Iran news says "Syrian government fights against terrorists" (that were the stories about 2014 if I remember correctly). Depending on which side you stand articles with your phrasing are the "news" and articles with the other phrasing are the "fake news". The truth would have been "ongoing battle between Iran and Saudi Arabia for leadership of the Arab/Persian world". I don't remember a single news paper reporting that in US, Europe, Russia, China or local.

sk0g 9y ago
Pointless argument, so people can make up completely random stories, and as long as there's a tiny portion of truth, such as say person A being referred to actually existing, it should be considered news? I'm sure even you don't believe that though, people seem to enjoy making pointless arguments a bit too much, at times.
- erikb 9y ago
  No the other way around. You interpret my statement as "how to define what should be considered news" while I'm saying "what you consider news is not better than fake news but just as fake".