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Lots of people disagree on the exact type of equality humanity should be aiming for.

by tscs37 9y ago

briantakita 9y ago
> Lots of people disagree on the exact type of equality humanity should be aiming for. It's a complicated domain. There are other measures of humanity, such as Freedom, Liberty, & Incentives for Fitness (i.e. Morality). The root question is do the ends justify the means? Do you want Equality of outcome so much that you are willing to adopt Fascism to achieve those aims? Even then, you won't have Equality. As in Animal Farm... "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others" The only way we can possibly achieve Equality is through death, & even then, the dead are unequally remembered.
- tscs37 9y ago
  re: measures of humanity; I meant humanity as in the species, not as a quality. >The root question is do the ends justify the means? I do not believe the ends will ever justify the means, but that is just my opinion on the matter. >Do you want Equality of outcome so much that you are willing to adopt Fascism to achieve those aims? I'm personally satisfied with equality of chance such that everyone has an equal chance of doing what they want but are not guaranteed to succeed either.
  - neo4sure 9y ago
    I would say equality vote is very important it was missing in this country not long ago. I would say that demonstrates an unyielding vein in this country that seems to be against equality. However, equality was achieved without violence. Why is violence required for your argument?
    - tscs37 9y ago
      >I would say equality vote is very important it was missing in this country not long ago. If you mean equality of vote; it's just another version of equality of chance. Everyone gets a chance to vote and be voted for, the outcome may not be equality. The other option is equality of outcome, which is antithetical to equality of vote. >Why is violence required for your argument? It's not. I recognize that sometimes violence is an inevitable outcome but everyone should be looking for non-violent means that make the least amount of people unhappy. I don't think I ever made violence necessary for my argument tbh...
neo4sure 9y ago
Specifically the NAZIS.
- dang 9y ago
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Lots of people disagree on the exact type of equality humanity should be aiming for.

by tscs37 9y ago

Lots of people disagree on the exact type of equality humanity should be aiming for.

> Lots of people disagree on the exact type of equality humanity should be aiming for. It's a complicated domain. There are other measures of humanity, such as Freedom, Liberty, & Incentives for Fitness (i.e. Morality). The root question is do the ends justify the means? Do you want Equality of outcome so much that you are willing to adopt Fascism to achieve those aims? Even then, you won't have Equality. As in Animal Farm... "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others" The only way we can possibly achieve Equality is through death, & even then, the dead are unequally remembered.

tscs37 9y ago
re: measures of humanity; I meant humanity as in the species, not as a quality. >The root question is do the ends justify the means? I do not believe the ends will ever justify the means, but that is just my opinion on the matter. >Do you want Equality of outcome so much that you are willing to adopt Fascism to achieve those aims? I'm personally satisfied with equality of chance such that everyone has an equal chance of doing what they want but are not guaranteed to succeed either.
- neo4sure 9y ago
  I would say equality vote is very important it was missing in this country not long ago. I would say that demonstrates an unyielding vein in this country that seems to be against equality. However, equality was achieved without violence. Why is violence required for your argument?
  - tscs37 9y ago
    >I would say equality vote is very important it was missing in this country not long ago. If you mean equality of vote; it's just another version of equality of chance. Everyone gets a chance to vote and be voted for, the outcome may not be equality. The other option is equality of outcome, which is antithetical to equality of vote. >Why is violence required for your argument? It's not. I recognize that sometimes violence is an inevitable outcome but everyone should be looking for non-violent means that make the least amount of people unhappy. I don't think I ever made violence necessary for my argument tbh...

neo4sure 9y ago

Specifically the NAZIS.

dang 9y ago
If you can't or won't stop posting unsubstantive comments here, we're going to end up banning you. Please fix this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html