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It's actually not a misdirection, it's the main point. The crux of the issue is whether you define certain journalistic behaviors as being bad/wrong just becau
by grandalf 9y ago
It's actually not a misdirection, it's the main point. The crux of the issue is whether you define certain journalistic behaviors as being bad/wrong just because they threaten the status quo power structure of the US.
If you think about it, your assertion that the alleged political motives of RT are inappropriate hinges upon your judgment that it is in Russia's national interest to undermine the legitimacy of powerful interests in the US, and (apparently) thus to weaken the US or put it at some sort of disadvantage.
I realize you are convinced that my views and comments fit some schema you feel duty-bound to try to refute, but I think that if you examine your belief system on the matter you will find that you simply feel loyalty to the status quo power structure in the US, which is closely aligned with its government. Thus you oppose any sort of disruptive or revolutionary behavior or ideas that might threaten this status quo that you are fond of.
Note that the status quo in the US is corporatism and militarism, and that there is really not a leftist movement of any stature in the US. HRC and Trump are both slight permutations of a more authoritarian version of Bush or Obama, since the nation has turned more toward authoritarianism as time has gone on.
Only if you view this authoritarian, militaristic course of action as being strongly in the US national interest is it possible to believe with full certainty that RT publishing stories that might appeal to the American far left or the most disempowered Americans is a bad thing. For only then does the amplification of those ideas/movements, etc., threaten anything that is a force of good.
In my view, the biggest weakness in the US is that there is very little dissent and we put far too much trust in our leaders, and apply far too little scrutiny to our institutions (public and private), allowing significant diversion of resources to various groups who benefit from the status quo.
Politicians should fear journalists and should fear the public finding out about their excesses, their side deals, and the true stories of how they became millionaires on $150K public servant salaries. If RT helps expose these fraudulent people for what they are, the US will be far better off for it. And yes, a consequence of some toppling of the existing power structures would probably be less global militarism, but I think it's hard to argue that our laying waste to so many countries abroad is remotely in the US national interest, but no disrespect intended if you do feel strongly that Trump's action in Yemen, etc., is bold and necessary to the world order.
- DonHopkins 9y agoYour entire main point has been to intentionally misdirect from the topic. Go learn the real definitions of the terms you're tossing around, instead of making up your own. You're the one who actually claims to be guilty of whataboutism: "OK I'm guilty." Are you proud of that? Do you wear it as a badge of honor? Those were your own words. Don't contradict yourself now by denying that you're not trying to misdirect.
- grandalf 9y agoI don't think that considering analogous or similar scenarios when trying to understand an issue is a bad thing, no matter what juvenile label you put on it.
- DonHopkins 9y agoYou still don't understand what the term "whataboutism" means. And now you've descended to calling a word names like "buzzword" and "juvenile". You can't hurt a word's feelings by calling it names, but you can learn what it means. So why don't you look up what the word means before confessing it applies to you, then calling it names?
- grandalf 9y agoI have responded in detail to the accusation you made of whataboutism in one of my other replies. It only applies when someone is a partisan trying to distract or persuade in an argument against another partisan. As I pointed out in that more detailed comment, I was asking some questions about similar scenarios to try to understand the analytical approach that you are applying that lets you confidently judge certain journalism as harmful.