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Wasn't aware that disassembling other people's broken code in your own free time for their benefit was a key part of being """professional""".

chongli 9y ago
It isn't, but being a professional does suggest a basic level of respectfulness and composure. Going on a profanity-laden rant against a popular vendor and its users would seem to fall short of that. On the other hand, a polite refusal to support EGLStreams may not have moved the needle enough to reach the front page of HN.
- StavrosK 9y ago
  You know, I'm tired of being respectful and composed while others are walking all over me. If Nvidia doesn't care enough about the OS I bought their card for, fuck them, they suck, and I'm not buying another one of their cards again. I'm tired of being polite and not rocking the boat while I'm being taken advantage of.
  - tomjakubowski 9y ago
    It's one thing to be a jerk to Nvidia, which seems justifiable. It's another thing to be a jerk to Nvidia users who may simply be unaware of the harm their GPU vendor has done.
    - StavrosK 9y ago
      Is he being a jerk because he doesn't want to do a bunch of unpaid work? If your car manufacturer doesn't want to fix your broken car, am I a jerk for not doing it for them?
      - chongli 9y ago
        No, but you are a jerk if you tell people who want to use your software to "fuck off" or buy a different car.
        StavrosK 9y ago
        Did he tell the people that? Or Nvidia? I must have missed it, if it was the former.
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        chongli 9y ago
        And proprietary driver users have the gall to reward Nvidia for their behavior by giving them hundreds of dollars for their GPUs, then come to me and ask me to deal with their bullshit for free. Well, fuck you, too. Nvidia users are shitty consumers and I don’t even want them in my userbase.
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    - kelnos 9y ago
      I think it's perfectly understandable (and perhaps even useful) to lose your composure when you have a bunch of users who act entitled and complain about your (free) software being "broken", when it's the fault of their GPU vendor, who makes a ton of money off their user base.
      - djur 9y ago
        It seems like a big problem for the Wayland ecosystem that support for a large category of video cards depends on one volunteer.
        jorams 9y ago
        It doesn't. Support for that large category of video cards depends on the manufacturer of those video cards.
        Qwertious 9y ago
        >support for a large category of video cards depends on one volunteer. How did you come to that conclusion? SirCmpwn doesn't maintain Wayland Nvidia support, just the Sway Compositor. If you want a Wayland compositor that supports Nvidia-proprietary, you can use GNOME.
        djur 9y ago
        The last time Sway came up as a topic at HN there was a conversation about whether a particular terminal manager was compatible with it yet. It seems to me that if the applications you use can have compatibility issues with the compositor you use, if you want to use an application your choice of compositors will be necessarily restrained to those that are compatible. And if compositors can be compatible or incompatible with particular hardware, that means that it's possible to have an application you want to use that is only compatible with compositors that are incompatible with your hardware. What am I missing?
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- Im_back_4_U 9y ago
  The point, it's what you miss.

chongli 9y ago

It isn't, but being a professional does suggest a basic level of respectfulness and composure. Going on a profanity-laden rant against a popular vendor and its users would seem to fall short of that. On the other hand, a polite refusal to support EGLStreams may not have moved the needle enough to reach the front page of HN.

StavrosK 9y ago
You know, I'm tired of being respectful and composed while others are walking all over me. If Nvidia doesn't care enough about the OS I bought their card for, fuck them, they suck, and I'm not buying another one of their cards again. I'm tired of being polite and not rocking the boat while I'm being taken advantage of.
- tomjakubowski 9y ago
  It's one thing to be a jerk to Nvidia, which seems justifiable. It's another thing to be a jerk to Nvidia users who may simply be unaware of the harm their GPU vendor has done.
  - StavrosK 9y ago
    Is he being a jerk because he doesn't want to do a bunch of unpaid work? If your car manufacturer doesn't want to fix your broken car, am I a jerk for not doing it for them?
    - chongli 9y ago
      No, but you are a jerk if you tell people who want to use your software to "fuck off" or buy a different car.
      - StavrosK 9y ago
        Did he tell the people that? Or Nvidia? I must have missed it, if it was the former.
        deleted 9y ago
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        chongli 9y ago
        And proprietary driver users have the gall to reward Nvidia for their behavior by giving them hundreds of dollars for their GPUs, then come to me and ask me to deal with their bullshit for free. Well, fuck you, too. Nvidia users are shitty consumers and I don’t even want them in my userbase.
    - deleted 9y ago
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  - kelnos 9y ago
    I think it's perfectly understandable (and perhaps even useful) to lose your composure when you have a bunch of users who act entitled and complain about your (free) software being "broken", when it's the fault of their GPU vendor, who makes a ton of money off their user base.
    - djur 9y ago
      It seems like a big problem for the Wayland ecosystem that support for a large category of video cards depends on one volunteer.
      - jorams 9y ago
        It doesn't. Support for that large category of video cards depends on the manufacturer of those video cards.
      - Qwertious 9y ago
        >support for a large category of video cards depends on one volunteer. How did you come to that conclusion? SirCmpwn doesn't maintain Wayland Nvidia support, just the Sway Compositor. If you want a Wayland compositor that supports Nvidia-proprietary, you can use GNOME.
        djur 9y ago
        The last time Sway came up as a topic at HN there was a conversation about whether a particular terminal manager was compatible with it yet. It seems to me that if the applications you use can have compatibility issues with the compositor you use, if you want to use an application your choice of compositors will be necessarily restrained to those that are compatible. And if compositors can be compatible or incompatible with particular hardware, that means that it's possible to have an application you want to use that is only compatible with compositors that are incompatible with your hardware. What am I missing?
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Im_back_4_U 9y ago
The point, it's what you miss.