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Author here. You know Microsoft engineers were paid 6 figure salaries to work on that, right? I have a Patreon where I make enough money to recoup half of the c
by Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
Author here. You know Microsoft engineers were paid 6 figure salaries to work on that, right? I have a Patreon where I make enough money to recoup half of the costs of maintaining these projects.
- yongjik 9y ago"I'm doing it as volunteer" is not an excuse for being unprofessional.
- mikeash 9y agoIt is an excellent excuse for not devoting a huge amount of time and effort to fixing other people's stuff, though.
- platinumrad 9y agoWasn't aware that disassembling other people's broken code in your own free time for their benefit was a key part of being """professional""".
- chongli 9y agoIt isn't, but being a professional does suggest a basic level of respectfulness and composure. Going on a profanity-laden rant against a popular vendor and its users would seem to fall short of that. On the other hand, a polite refusal to support EGLStreams may not have moved the needle enough to reach the front page of HN.
- StavrosK 9y agoYou know, I'm tired of being respectful and composed while others are walking all over me. If Nvidia doesn't care enough about the OS I bought their card for, fuck them, they suck, and I'm not buying another one of their cards again. I'm tired of being polite and not rocking the boat while I'm being taken advantage of.
- tomjakubowski 9y agoIt's one thing to be a jerk to Nvidia, which seems justifiable. It's another thing to be a jerk to Nvidia users who may simply be unaware of the harm their GPU vendor has done.
- StavrosK 9y agoIs he being a jerk because he doesn't want to do a bunch of unpaid work? If your car manufacturer doesn't want to fix your broken car, am I a jerk for not doing it for them?
- chongli 9y agoNo, but you are a jerk if you tell people who want to use your software to "fuck off" or buy a different car.
- StavrosK 9y agoDid he tell the people that? Or Nvidia? I must have missed it, if it was the former.
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- chongli 9y agoAnd proprietary driver users have the gall to reward Nvidia for their behavior by giving them hundreds of dollars for their GPUs, then come to me and ask me to deal with their bullshit for free. Well, fuck you, too. Nvidia users are shitty consumers and I don’t even want them in my userbase.
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- kelnos 9y agoI think it's perfectly understandable (and perhaps even useful) to lose your composure when you have a bunch of users who act entitled and complain about your (free) software being "broken", when it's the fault of their GPU vendor, who makes a ton of money off their user base.
- Im_back_4_U 9y agoThe point, it's what you miss.
- Avshalom 9y agoNot being paid for something is pretty much the literal definition of not being a professional.
- shmerl 9y agoSo you define volunteers as unprofessional by definition. That doens't sound right.
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- Avshalom 9y agoIt is an off handed snark based on the not terribly subtle difference between "not a professional" and "unprofessional" which I feel perfectly validated making because Sway isn't a volunteer effort, it is an (un|insufficiently) paid effort, which is also not a very subtle difference.
- StavrosK 9y agoI would expect professionalism from someone I'm paying. I don't expect professionalism from someone who's basically giving me free stuff. If someone offers to paint your fence for free, and your fence has some really nasty angles at some point, would you say the volunteer was unprofessional if they said "yeah I'm not going to paint that part"?
- esaym 9y agoThere is a certain level of just being a decent human being though. If I am an unpaid pastor of a church, should I give crappy sermons?
- icebraining 9y agoIn what way is Sir_Cmpwn's work "crappy"? Guess what: if you ask your local Catholic priest to give sermons for your weird sect, he'll probably refuse too. And if lots of people keep insisting, it's not surprising he gets annoyed.
- yongjik 9y ago> I don't expect professionalism from someone who's basically giving me free stuff. Ironically, that's exactly what Microsoft has been saying about Linux during those bad old days. Linux was successful because its developers didn't say "If you want to talk to a professional, buy something else." I'm not saying an OSS developer should bend over and take abuse from users. But I believe there's a line between that and calling users "entitled brats" just because they use vendor-supplied drivers for their $500 cards.
- kelnos 9y agoNo, he's calling his users "entitled brats" because they come into his channel and bitch and whine and demand he support them... for free.
- sgift 9y agoAfter the post and all his comments here I have my doubts that "bitch and whine" isn't actually "people ask me questions, I realize that they use Nvidia so their questions are by definition whining and bitching."
- wizbright 9y agoSirCmpwn has a patreon. If you feel the need to help pay for him to develop a feature, you can. He can't maintain everything especially with the hardware working against him. https://www.patreon.com/sircmpwn https://www.patreon.com/sircmpwn
- ww520 9y agoThat is some heavy BS logic.
- Derbasti 9y agoBy that logic, I hope you cook only professional-grade food, and exercise like a professional athlete.