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Here is what I believe. After Oswald's first shot Kennedy's limo, and the chase vehicles all hit the gas The chase vehicle directly behind Kennedy had FBI age

Here is what I believe. After Oswald's first shot Kennedy's limo, and the chase vehicles all hit the gas The chase vehicle directly behind Kennedy had FBI agents with M-16's, with the safety off, standard protocol. There is a picture of the car directly behind Kennedy, where the FBI agent has his M-16 resting on the top the windshield angled slightly downward, the chase vehicle as a convertible as well. When all the cars hit the gas to get out after the first Oswald shots I think the agent holding that M-16 accidentally pulled the trigger when he was knocked off balance when the car accelerated. That shot was the head shot was the kill shot. The bullet from kennedy's skull was a different type and smaller caliber than what came from Oswald's gun. The reason for the cover-up was to protect the FBI agent, telling the American public that an FBI agent accidentally did a head shot on the president wasn't something anyone wanted, plus the shot that Oswald hit Kennedy with would have killed him anyway.

escape_goat 9y ago
Colt (née ArmaLite) AR-15. It seems unlikely that the President's head would have remained intact in that circumstances, or that the medical examiners would otherwise mistake the energy effects of a 6.5 mm round at range for those of a 5.56 mm round point blank.
- terminado 9y ago
  It seems unlikely[...] That's not a particularly substantive comment. Got anything to back up what seems to be the case, according to your opinion? the energy effects of a 6.5 mm round at range Compared to: those of a 5.56 mm round point blank The behavior of either bullet on a human head, given the circumstances, won't be radically different. Hydrostatic shock, inducing spin on the slug, upon entering the cranium, is going to pop the skull open on exit, and everything in between is going to be shredded hamburger. The head wouldn't be ripped clean off. It wasn't a 12 gauge shotgun inside the mouth. These weren't explosive shells. They were ball rounds.
  - escape_goat 9y ago
    It's true that my response would be greatly improved had I done the math comparing the kinetic energy of the bullets in the two scenarios. I relied on reports of the results of M-16 shots to the human head at similar distances. However, having done further reading on the matter, it has become clear that no such bullet as we are discussing actually struck the President's skull. The bullet struck the President's first thoracic vertebrae and exited from his throat. So I do not feel all that badly about the degree of diligence that I invested in my reply.
    - terminado 9y ago
      So share your reading material, rather than leave opaque conclusions, as you search for an exit to the reply chain.
Apocryphon 9y ago
Secret Service, actually. This is one of the more reasonable conspiracy theories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Error
- god_bless_texas 9y ago
  Wow, can't believe this is the first time I've heard of this. It actually makes a ton of sense and explains away alot of issues.
- angstrom 9y ago
  This is much better than the least likely consipiracy: Kennedy's head just inexplicably exploded on its own.
- mhneu 9y ago
  The most reasonable idea about a conspiracy is that the CIA/FBI knew Oswald had contact with the KGB, were embarrassed they didn't stop Oswald before he acted, and the CIA covered up what they knew about Oswald's Russia/Cuba ties.
cli 9y ago
This r/askhistorians comment makes what I think is a very good rebuttal of this claim (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/75sbk8/kennedy_assassination_records_may_be_fully/do94xab/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/75sbk8/kenne...) Specifically these two paragraphs: >So there were ten people in/on the car. Each and everyone of them has significant experience with firearms, which includes WWII and/or Korea war experience for most. >You are going to tell me that these ten guys are going to have a rifle fire right next to their ears, see the President is shot and NOT disarm the man? Not even react? Not grab your ears, because that would hurt like crazy.

escape_goat 9y ago

Colt (née ArmaLite) AR-15. It seems unlikely that the President's head would have remained intact in that circumstances, or that the medical examiners would otherwise mistake the energy effects of a 6.5 mm round at range for those of a 5.56 mm round point blank.

terminado 9y ago
It seems unlikely[...] That's not a particularly substantive comment. Got anything to back up what seems to be the case, according to your opinion? the energy effects of a 6.5 mm round at range Compared to: those of a 5.56 mm round point blank The behavior of either bullet on a human head, given the circumstances, won't be radically different. Hydrostatic shock, inducing spin on the slug, upon entering the cranium, is going to pop the skull open on exit, and everything in between is going to be shredded hamburger. The head wouldn't be ripped clean off. It wasn't a 12 gauge shotgun inside the mouth. These weren't explosive shells. They were ball rounds.
- escape_goat 9y ago
  It's true that my response would be greatly improved had I done the math comparing the kinetic energy of the bullets in the two scenarios. I relied on reports of the results of M-16 shots to the human head at similar distances. However, having done further reading on the matter, it has become clear that no such bullet as we are discussing actually struck the President's skull. The bullet struck the President's first thoracic vertebrae and exited from his throat. So I do not feel all that badly about the degree of diligence that I invested in my reply.
  - terminado 9y ago
    So share your reading material, rather than leave opaque conclusions, as you search for an exit to the reply chain.

Apocryphon 9y ago

Secret Service, actually. This is one of the more reasonable conspiracy theories: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Error

god_bless_texas 9y ago
Wow, can't believe this is the first time I've heard of this. It actually makes a ton of sense and explains away alot of issues.
angstrom 9y ago
This is much better than the least likely consipiracy: Kennedy's head just inexplicably exploded on its own.
mhneu 9y ago
The most reasonable idea about a conspiracy is that the CIA/FBI knew Oswald had contact with the KGB, were embarrassed they didn't stop Oswald before he acted, and the CIA covered up what they knew about Oswald's Russia/Cuba ties.

cli 9y ago

This r/askhistorians comment makes what I think is a very good rebuttal of this claim (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/75sbk8/kennedy_assassination_records_may_be_fully/do94xab/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/75sbk8/kenne...) Specifically these two paragraphs: >So there were ten people in/on the car. Each and everyone of them has significant experience with firearms, which includes WWII and/or Korea war experience for most. >You are going to tell me that these ten guys are going to have a rifle fire right next to their ears, see the President is shot and NOT disarm the man? Not even react? Not grab your ears, because that would hurt like crazy.