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Fortunately reddit is banning communities that advocate violence, not communities with certain sets of politics. It just so happens that there's a major overlap

by lobf 9y ago

Fortunately reddit is banning communities that advocate violence, not communities with certain sets of politics. It just so happens that there's a major overlap of political views to inciting violence. Even the first amendment recognizes that there are limits to free speech- namely when they infringe on other people's rights.

jquery 9y ago
Which political views would those be? Most of the politically-incited violence of the past few years has been left-wing. From Antifa, to the Berkeley riots, to the BLM riots (and BLM-inspired cop executions in Houston), and the "Bernie-bro" attempted assassination.
- libertyEQ 9y ago
  It was Dallas, not Houston. >Most of the politically-incited violence of the past few years has been left-wing. Is this claim based on data or anecdotes?
  - jquery 9y ago
    From the WITS - https://imgur.com/a/nE1of https://imgur.com/a/nE1of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_Incidents_Tracking_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_Incidents_Tracking_S... If you know a good replacement, please let me know. That's worldwide data, but even using worldwide data, there just aren't that many violent Nazis out there.
    - libertyEQ 9y ago
      This is going to take me a few minutes... WITS was discontinued 5 years ago. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/theories-meaning-trump-many-sides-remark.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/theories-mean... https://www.thenation.com/article/why-does-the-far-right-hold-a-near-monopoly-on-political-violence/ https://www.thenation.com/article/why-does-the-far-right-hol... [warning, pdf] https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/MurderAndExtremismInUS2016.pdf https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/MurderAndE... [2015 study; warning, pdf] https://sites.duke.edu/tcths/files/2013/06/Kurzman_Schanzer_Law_Enforcement_Assessment_of_the_Violent_Extremist_Threat_final.pdf https://sites.duke.edu/tcths/files/2013/06/Kurzman_Schanzer_... I'm actually quite certain that antifa has either been infiltrated by agent provocateurs or is populated by useful idiots. I say this as a life long Republican (until March '03). Edit: Am I supposed to summarize these 4 articles in order to be considered adequate response to a wiki link of an org that was dissolved 5 years ago?

by lobf 9y ago

jquery 9y ago

Which political views would those be? Most of the politically-incited violence of the past few years has been left-wing. From Antifa, to the Berkeley riots, to the BLM riots (and BLM-inspired cop executions in Houston), and the "Bernie-bro" attempted assassination.

libertyEQ 9y ago
It was Dallas, not Houston. >Most of the politically-incited violence of the past few years has been left-wing. Is this claim based on data or anecdotes?
- jquery 9y ago
  From the WITS - https://imgur.com/a/nE1of https://imgur.com/a/nE1of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_Incidents_Tracking_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_Incidents_Tracking_S... If you know a good replacement, please let me know. That's worldwide data, but even using worldwide data, there just aren't that many violent Nazis out there.
  - libertyEQ 9y ago
    This is going to take me a few minutes... WITS was discontinued 5 years ago. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/theories-meaning-trump-many-sides-remark.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/theories-mean... https://www.thenation.com/article/why-does-the-far-right-hold-a-near-monopoly-on-political-violence/ https://www.thenation.com/article/why-does-the-far-right-hol... [warning, pdf] https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/MurderAndExtremismInUS2016.pdf https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/MurderAndE... [2015 study; warning, pdf] https://sites.duke.edu/tcths/files/2013/06/Kurzman_Schanzer_Law_Enforcement_Assessment_of_the_Violent_Extremist_Threat_final.pdf https://sites.duke.edu/tcths/files/2013/06/Kurzman_Schanzer_... I'm actually quite certain that antifa has either been infiltrated by agent provocateurs or is populated by useful idiots. I say this as a life long Republican (until March '03). Edit: Am I supposed to summarize these 4 articles in order to be considered adequate response to a wiki link of an org that was dissolved 5 years ago?