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Oracle scared of PostgreSQL? Good times.

by moe 16y ago

Locke1689 16y ago
Honestly, they probably don't care about them. That doesn't mean they'll just run their servers for free, though.
tomjen3 16y ago
Yep. Oracle is scared of pretty much any other database (properly not sqlite, but otherwise). They are so scared that they prevent anyone with an Oracle license from publishing a benchmark of it. Which can only mean that they suck at everything except playing golf.
- viraptor 16y ago
  To be honest it makes some sense in their case. Just look at the amount of blog posts that compare how fast databases are by running an insert of 1M rows, then a couple of selects and declaring a "winner" based on that... I'm sure Oracle wouldn't like any "tests" like that published.
  - ahi 16y ago
    I don't think that is really their concern. Even if Oracle comes out on top in benchmarks they lose. "We're spending how much to get a x% performance increase?" Once numbers are attached a rational decision can be made come buying decision time. Oracle wants/needs that decision to be based on qualitative arguments, "our space unicorn is better than they're blue elephant."
- gaius 16y ago
  They are so scared that they prevent anyone with an Oracle license from publishing a benchmark of it Then what's this? http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
  - ergo98 16y ago
    It was sanctioned by Oracle.
    - gaius 16y ago
      You can wriggle all you like, but here's a published, third-party Oracle benchmark showing it well ahead of the competition. Why are they "afraid"?
      - ergo98 16y ago
        Wriggle? What? I think you're confused. All of the major DB vendors have clauses saying that you can't publish benchmarks without their written consent. Not surprisingly that supports a hearty confirmation bias. What's the confusion?
- ergo98 16y ago
  >They are so scared that they prevent anyone with an Oracle license from publishing a benchmark of it I believe every single major database vendor does this. It's called a DeWitt clause. The arguable justification is that it avoids misleading or incompetent benchmarks from slandering their product, but in reality it's so the only benchmarks published are the ones that favour them. I recently was looking to add Microsoft's new AppFabric (sort of like Redis) to an install, but strangely was finding zero performance metrics on it. I finally plowed ahead to discover that one of the first EULA demands is that you don't publish any benchmarks. I cancelled the install and moved on. Products that can't bear comparison instantly enter the land of the dubious.

Oracle scared of PostgreSQL? Good times.

by moe 16y ago

Oracle scared of PostgreSQL? Good times.

Locke1689 16y ago

Honestly, they probably don't care about them. That doesn't mean they'll just run their servers for free, though.

tomjen3 16y ago

Yep. Oracle is scared of pretty much any other database (properly not sqlite, but otherwise). They are so scared that they prevent anyone with an Oracle license from publishing a benchmark of it. Which can only mean that they suck at everything except playing golf.

viraptor 16y ago
To be honest it makes some sense in their case. Just look at the amount of blog posts that compare how fast databases are by running an insert of 1M rows, then a couple of selects and declaring a "winner" based on that... I'm sure Oracle wouldn't like any "tests" like that published.
- ahi 16y ago
  I don't think that is really their concern. Even if Oracle comes out on top in benchmarks they lose. "We're spending how much to get a x% performance increase?" Once numbers are attached a rational decision can be made come buying decision time. Oracle wants/needs that decision to be based on qualitative arguments, "our space unicorn is better than they're blue elephant."
gaius 16y ago
They are so scared that they prevent anyone with an Oracle license from publishing a benchmark of it Then what's this? http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
- ergo98 16y ago
  It was sanctioned by Oracle.
  - gaius 16y ago
    You can wriggle all you like, but here's a published, third-party Oracle benchmark showing it well ahead of the competition. Why are they "afraid"?
    - ergo98 16y ago
      Wriggle? What? I think you're confused. All of the major DB vendors have clauses saying that you can't publish benchmarks without their written consent. Not surprisingly that supports a hearty confirmation bias. What's the confusion?
ergo98 16y ago
>They are so scared that they prevent anyone with an Oracle license from publishing a benchmark of it I believe every single major database vendor does this. It's called a DeWitt clause. The arguable justification is that it avoids misleading or incompetent benchmarks from slandering their product, but in reality it's so the only benchmarks published are the ones that favour them. I recently was looking to add Microsoft's new AppFabric (sort of like Redis) to an install, but strangely was finding zero performance metrics on it. I finally plowed ahead to discover that one of the first EULA demands is that you don't publish any benchmarks. I cancelled the install and moved on. Products that can't bear comparison instantly enter the land of the dubious.