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But Im not wrong. Twitter was in dire straits a year ago. Saved by a reality show presidential candidate and might have their first profitable moment after 10

by ProAm 9y ago

But Im not wrong. Twitter was in dire straits a year ago. Saved by a reality show presidential candidate and might have their first profitable moment after 10 years of existence. Twitter is easily overstaffed by looking at what they have produced over the years. Even if you shaved the bottom 25% of employees they could still be operational and extremely profitable. They are a public company, growth is stagnant, and expenses are extraordinary. It's not rocket science even for someone with sheer arrogance and zero experience running a large corporation.

jczhang 9y ago
Hahaha I don't have a cow in this race but I find it hilarious that someone would admit to having `sheer arrogance` hahahaha
throwaway0255 9y ago
No you're probably wrong According to my Wikipedia research, they had ~2.5 billion in revenue last year and ~450 million in net losses If they shaved the bottom 25%, to reach ramen profitability they'd need a savings of $450,000 per employee cut, and do that without having any negative impact on the productivity of the org as a whole (be it through hours worked or employee morale or additional churn) Corporations are giant container ships moving in one direction, you can't just snap your fingers and turn 90 degrees
hobofan 9y ago
"Let's force ourselves to be profitable right now, regardless of the fact that it will destroy our future profitability" Soundcloud just had a similar shock happen, and after all the people they had to fire, I would not be surprised if that will kill the company in the mid-term, even with their new investment. If you have no ability to innovate due to missing staff, there is a good chance that your competitors will eat you alive.
- ProAm 9y ago
  10+ years of losing money.
- bm1362 9y ago
  I think SoundCloud's downfall would be it's huge investment into record label deals, it's paywalling to support said deals and then the lack of adoption for it's subscription service for access to those label's music. Essentially, SC tried to pivot to Spotify, pissed off free users, and let it's actual paying user base stagnate for 2 years. Then all that capital investment had no return and they're stuck in big contracts with hefty guaranteed payouts.

by ProAm 9y ago

jczhang 9y ago

Hahaha I don't have a cow in this race but I find it hilarious that someone would admit to having `sheer arrogance` hahahaha

throwaway0255 9y ago

No you're probably wrong According to my Wikipedia research, they had ~2.5 billion in revenue last year and ~450 million in net losses If they shaved the bottom 25%, to reach ramen profitability they'd need a savings of $450,000 per employee cut, and do that without having any negative impact on the productivity of the org as a whole (be it through hours worked or employee morale or additional churn) Corporations are giant container ships moving in one direction, you can't just snap your fingers and turn 90 degrees

hobofan 9y ago

"Let's force ourselves to be profitable right now, regardless of the fact that it will destroy our future profitability" Soundcloud just had a similar shock happen, and after all the people they had to fire, I would not be surprised if that will kill the company in the mid-term, even with their new investment. If you have no ability to innovate due to missing staff, there is a good chance that your competitors will eat you alive.

ProAm 9y ago
10+ years of losing money.
bm1362 9y ago
I think SoundCloud's downfall would be it's huge investment into record label deals, it's paywalling to support said deals and then the lack of adoption for it's subscription service for access to those label's music. Essentially, SC tried to pivot to Spotify, pissed off free users, and let it's actual paying user base stagnate for 2 years. Then all that capital investment had no return and they're stuck in big contracts with hefty guaranteed payouts.