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So, here's my issue with your comment and the mindset it betrays: rather than acknowledging that this is a serious issue that we should not take lightly, you do

So, here's my issue with your comment and the mindset it betrays: rather than acknowledging that this is a serious issue that we should not take lightly, you do the opposite. You say, 'That' what PR firms do. They lie to help the company. Everyone does it.' We can get to everyone as we go, but it's time to start holding people accountable, rather than accepting it as the way it goes/is.

tptacek 9y ago
You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say "they lie to help the company", or that they lie at all.
- grasshopperpurp 9y ago
  >Yesterday's groundbreaking news of a new lawsuit regarding Monsanto's collusion, cover ups, and corruption inside the EPA is a part of a long string of unraveling safety claims. Decades of faulty chemical review procedures are beginning to be overturned. Last week, after years of asking, I received an email from the EPA confirming that the National Toxicology Program is currently reviewing glyphosate and glyphosate formulations. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/324386-monsanto-and-the-epa-have-been-lying-to-us-for-years http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/324... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-simon/top-10-lies-told-by-monsa_b_1819731.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-simon/top-10-lies-tol...
  - tptacek 9y ago
    That is a string that does not occur in the story we're commenting on, but rather an op-ed that you've brought in.
    - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
      >You're missing the point of the comment. The same company produces both products, and has a long history of manipulating media coverage in this manner. ^That's the original comment you replied to. We're talking about Monsanto's history of lying and manipulation through the media.
- Jesus_Jones 9y ago
  It seems like what you are doing is saying there's no basis to be concerned about monsanto's actions because everyone does it. That's not good enough, and not accurate about Monsanto. They are pretty much always acting as an overpowering bully. In one state, they are suing regulators who are concerned about the use of their chemicals in that state.
  - wglb 9y ago
    > what you are doing is saying there's no basis to be concerned about monsanto's actions He said no such thing. He was addressing the extremely common practice of using PR to further business.
    - posterboy 9y ago
      he didnt say anything general as that unless you find that lying is all that pr firms do and only they do lie.

tptacek 9y ago

You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say "they lie to help the company", or that they lie at all.

grasshopperpurp 9y ago
>Yesterday's groundbreaking news of a new lawsuit regarding Monsanto's collusion, cover ups, and corruption inside the EPA is a part of a long string of unraveling safety claims. Decades of faulty chemical review procedures are beginning to be overturned. Last week, after years of asking, I received an email from the EPA confirming that the National Toxicology Program is currently reviewing glyphosate and glyphosate formulations. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/324386-monsanto-and-the-epa-have-been-lying-to-us-for-years http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/324... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-simon/top-10-lies-told-by-monsa_b_1819731.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-simon/top-10-lies-tol...
- tptacek 9y ago
  That is a string that does not occur in the story we're commenting on, but rather an op-ed that you've brought in.
  - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
    >You're missing the point of the comment. The same company produces both products, and has a long history of manipulating media coverage in this manner. ^That's the original comment you replied to. We're talking about Monsanto's history of lying and manipulation through the media.
Jesus_Jones 9y ago
It seems like what you are doing is saying there's no basis to be concerned about monsanto's actions because everyone does it. That's not good enough, and not accurate about Monsanto. They are pretty much always acting as an overpowering bully. In one state, they are suing regulators who are concerned about the use of their chemicals in that state.
- wglb 9y ago
  > what you are doing is saying there's no basis to be concerned about monsanto's actions He said no such thing. He was addressing the extremely common practice of using PR to further business.
  - posterboy 9y ago
    he didnt say anything general as that unless you find that lying is all that pr firms do and only they do lie.