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there is a difference between keeping men hooked on porn and allowing them to watch it. It's like the whole thing with Catholic priests being pedophiles. Non-Ca

there is a difference between keeping men hooked on porn and allowing them to watch it. It's like the whole thing with Catholic priests being pedophiles. Non-Catholic priests aren't forced to marry, and yet they are far less likely to become pedophiles.

dragonwriter 9y ago
> It's like the whole thing with Catholic priests being pedophiles. Non-Catholic priests aren't forced to marry, and yet they are far less likely to become pedophiles. While in many respects the response of the Catholic heirarchy to sexual abuse of minors by priests was beyond appalling and inexcusable, the incidence of such abuse (or accusations of such abuse) from every comparison I've seen was similar to other religions groups, schools, and youth organizations like scouting.
- timthelion 9y ago
  > from every comparison I've seen was similar to other religions groups, schools, and youth organizations like scouting. I have just spent a while looking at the statistics. I have found a huge number of incomparable, incomplete, and incorrectly analyzed statistics, and many strong claims that catholic priests are no more likely to abuse. However, I have found nothing remotely objective pointing in either direction. Have you found any actually objective studies which show anything meaningful as to the question of whether priests are more, less, or equally likely to abuse?
  - Mz 9y ago
    It's fine if you two want to dig into the stats, but I don't think that element is really essential to the point that "Similarly, not all unmarried people are child molesters, contrary to the impression you might have from all the pedophile Catholic priests in the news." FWIW and similar provisos.
    - timthelion 9y ago
      "Not all smokers have lung cancer. Therefore, smoking does not cause lung cancer."
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there is a difference between keeping men hooked on porn and allowing them to watch it. It's like the whole thing with Catholic priests being pedophiles. Non-Ca

by timthelion 9y ago

dragonwriter 9y ago
> It's like the whole thing with Catholic priests being pedophiles. Non-Catholic priests aren't forced to marry, and yet they are far less likely to become pedophiles. While in many respects the response of the Catholic heirarchy to sexual abuse of minors by priests was beyond appalling and inexcusable, the incidence of such abuse (or accusations of such abuse) from every comparison I've seen was similar to other religions groups, schools, and youth organizations like scouting.
- timthelion 9y ago
  > from every comparison I've seen was similar to other religions groups, schools, and youth organizations like scouting. I have just spent a while looking at the statistics. I have found a huge number of incomparable, incomplete, and incorrectly analyzed statistics, and many strong claims that catholic priests are no more likely to abuse. However, I have found nothing remotely objective pointing in either direction. Have you found any actually objective studies which show anything meaningful as to the question of whether priests are more, less, or equally likely to abuse?
  - Mz 9y ago
    It's fine if you two want to dig into the stats, but I don't think that element is really essential to the point that "Similarly, not all unmarried people are child molesters, contrary to the impression you might have from all the pedophile Catholic priests in the news." FWIW and similar provisos.
    - timthelion 9y ago
      "Not all smokers have lung cancer. Therefore, smoking does not cause lung cancer."
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