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Same old shit. This was doing the rounds: https://twitter.com/GeorgeMonbiot/status/920935967082639360 https://twitter.com/GeorgeMonbiot/status/920935967082639

by techer 9y ago

Same old shit. This was doing the rounds: https://twitter.com/GeorgeMonbiot/status/920935967082639360 https://twitter.com/GeorgeMonbiot/status/920935967082639360 and this http://swns-digital.com/2KU4-15FL6-095I05M7FE/cr.aspx http://swns-digital.com/2KU4-15FL6-095I05M7FE/cr.aspx Hi Monty We have a story that we thought might be of interest to you, looking at plans to ban key chemicals in weed-killers. Quick Pitch: Green-fingered Brits could soon be forced to weed their entire gardens by HAND if Brussels bureaucrats ban a chemical found in the biggest selling weed-killers, it has emerged. More: For more than 40 years glyphosate has been the key component of weed-killers such as Round-Up, enabling keen gardeners to eradicate menaces such as knotweed, hogweed, bindweed and black grass. But environmental activists Greenpeace and a string of anti-pesticide socialist MEPs want it banned despite it being certified as safe by numerous chemical and food safety agencies. Experts fear a vote in favour of removing the chemical will leave gardeners to rely on less effective weed-killers, or even further down the line products which contain a fast-tracked replacement chemical. News Copy can be downloaded from our online newswire.

urspx 9y ago
Wow, this really has everything – the poor Brits against the evil Brussels bureaucrats and environmental activists.
zymhan 9y ago
This isn't about Glyphosate (Round Up), this is about Dicamba
- ceejayoz 9y ago
  You're missing the point of the comment. The same company produces both products, and has a long history of manipulating media coverage in this manner.
  - tptacek 9y ago
    By "manipulating media coverage", you mean "having a PR team that pitches stories"? Because virtually every company listed on the NASDAQ does that --- as does every company that has ever issued a press release.
    - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
      So, that makes it cool to spread terrible lies? If not, why post this? What's your point?
      - tptacek 9y ago
        I mean, hats off for a deft deployment of the assumptive close in your argument --- I don't really even understand what the arguments they're promoting are, let alone whether they're "terrible lies", but my point was pretty straightforward: the comment to which I replied singled out Monsanto as having a reputation for media manipulation, and if pitching stories is that, basically all major media companies are guilty as well. That's what PR groups do.
        grasshopperpurp 9y ago
        So, here's my issue with your comment and the mindset it betrays: rather than acknowledging that this is a serious issue that we should not take lightly, you do the opposite. You say, 'That' what PR firms do. They lie to help the company. Everyone does it.' We can get to everyone as we go, but it's time to start holding people accountable, rather than accepting it as the way it goes/is.
        tptacek 9y ago
        You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say "they lie to help the company", or that they lie at all.
        grasshopperpurp 9y ago
        >Yesterday's groundbreaking news of a new lawsuit regarding Monsanto's collusion, cover ups, and corruption inside the EPA is a part of a long string of unraveling safety claims. Decades of faulty chemical review procedures are beginning to be overturned. Last week, after years of asking, I received an email from the EPA confirming that the National Toxicology Program is currently reviewing glyphosate and glyphosate formulations. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/324386-monsanto-and-the-epa-have-been-lying-to-us-for-years http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/324... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-simon/top-10-lies-told-by-monsa_b_1819731.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-simon/top-10-lies-tol...
- mcguire 9y ago
  Arguably, the glycophosphate resistance and patent issues mean Monsanto wants everyone to switch to the new product asap. What better way than getting it banned?

by techer 9y ago

urspx 9y ago

Wow, this really has everything – the poor Brits against the evil Brussels bureaucrats and environmental activists.

zymhan 9y ago

This isn't about Glyphosate (Round Up), this is about Dicamba

ceejayoz 9y ago
You're missing the point of the comment. The same company produces both products, and has a long history of manipulating media coverage in this manner.
- tptacek 9y ago
  By "manipulating media coverage", you mean "having a PR team that pitches stories"? Because virtually every company listed on the NASDAQ does that --- as does every company that has ever issued a press release.
  - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
    So, that makes it cool to spread terrible lies? If not, why post this? What's your point?
    - tptacek 9y ago
      I mean, hats off for a deft deployment of the assumptive close in your argument --- I don't really even understand what the arguments they're promoting are, let alone whether they're "terrible lies", but my point was pretty straightforward: the comment to which I replied singled out Monsanto as having a reputation for media manipulation, and if pitching stories is that, basically all major media companies are guilty as well. That's what PR groups do.
      - grasshopperpurp 9y ago
        So, here's my issue with your comment and the mindset it betrays: rather than acknowledging that this is a serious issue that we should not take lightly, you do the opposite. You say, 'That' what PR firms do. They lie to help the company. Everyone does it.' We can get to everyone as we go, but it's time to start holding people accountable, rather than accepting it as the way it goes/is.
        tptacek 9y ago
        You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say "they lie to help the company", or that they lie at all.
        grasshopperpurp 9y ago
        >Yesterday's groundbreaking news of a new lawsuit regarding Monsanto's collusion, cover ups, and corruption inside the EPA is a part of a long string of unraveling safety claims. Decades of faulty chemical review procedures are beginning to be overturned. Last week, after years of asking, I received an email from the EPA confirming that the National Toxicology Program is currently reviewing glyphosate and glyphosate formulations. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/324386-monsanto-and-the-epa-have-been-lying-to-us-for-years http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/324... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-simon/top-10-lies-told-by-monsa_b_1819731.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-simon/top-10-lies-tol...
mcguire 9y ago
Arguably, the glycophosphate resistance and patent issues mean Monsanto wants everyone to switch to the new product asap. What better way than getting it banned?