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I have an idea, but it's pure speculation. Fear. Going up against Monstanto and the like is a good way to get into trouble. [0][1] There are many other example

I have an idea, but it's pure speculation. Fear. Going up against Monstanto and the like is a good way to get into trouble. [0][1] There are many other examples. Often, they are mixed with sentimentalism or sensationalism (and these examples might be, too-- they're the result of 5 seconds of Googling). But beneath the ones I've read/watched, there's clearly some truth. [0] https://modernfarmer.com/2015/09/seeding-fear-the-story-of-a-farmer-who-took-on-monsanto/ https://modernfarmer.com/2015/09/seeding-fear-the-story-of-a... [1] https://www.rt.com/news/206787-monsanto-india-farmers-suicides/ https://www.rt.com/news/206787-monsanto-india-farmers-suicid...

rwoodley 9y ago
Please don't cite rt.com. That is pure Russian propaganda. Not saying your general point is wrong, but the minute you cite rt.com you're basically repeating politcally generated fake news straight from the Kremlin.
- oh_sigh 9y ago
  Agreed. Also, don't cite BBC because it is fake news straight from Buckingham. Also, don't quote WSJ or NYT because it is fake news straight from the 1%. And don't quote CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News because they are all just fake news buzzfeed wannabes.
  - wavefunction 9y ago
    Buckingham? The British monarchy is only a figurehead.
    - bdamm 9y ago
      Right, they probably meant Downing Street.
    - macawfish 9y ago
      I took that as silly humor. Buckingham is a funny word.
    - googlryas 9y ago
      It's cute you believe that. Ever read the Black Spider memos?
      - dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
        From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_spider_memos#Reception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_spider_memos#Reception: "The Black Spider Memos met with little criticism, and public support for the Prince of Wales."
        googlryas 9y ago
        Most people in the UK will support the monarchy regardless of what they do. Including meddling in political affairs and not being figure heads.
  - okreallywtf 9y ago
    So what totally unfiltered source do you get your information from?
    - oh_sigh 9y ago
      4chan
- okreallywtf 9y ago
  I know why you were downvoted, unfortunately you are more or less right but at the same time chances are they do publish or republish legitimate news soem of the time. I think its fine to ask for another source to verify a questionable source like RT.
  - Jesus_Jones 9y ago
    RT is a particular case, because they publish things straight from a national state. Legitimate news sources do not. You'll never see them publish something that challenges their national sponsor.
- deleted 9y ago
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- kafkaesq 9y ago
  Your point is perfectly valid, and shouldn't have been downvoted. But as a footnote, the sibling comment here happens to also be correct: like any truly effective propaganda outlet, RT leverages a mix of largely legitimate / mundane news along with a certain proportion of fake or distorted news. But for the sake of simplicity it's best to stop citing RT or feeding it attention of any other form, altogether.
at-fates-hands 9y ago
I remember seeing a documentary film about this. I think it was called, "The Future of Food" and it documented pretty well Monsanto's MO to go after farmers who aren't using their seeds. Farmer's who don't use their seeds are sued for patent infringement if a neighbors seeds blow onto their land and they find out about it. Monsanto is a modern day Mafia cartel, it's insane.
- sli 9y ago
  No, they don't sue for that. Myth #2 as listed here: http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top...
  - icantdrive55 9y ago
    "It's certainly true that Monsanto has been going after farmers whom the company suspects of using GMO seeds without paying royalties. And there are plenty of cases — including Schmeiser's — in which the company has overreached, engaged in raw intimidation, and made accusations that turned out not to be backed up by evidence." 1. Right out of the blog. 2. How much harrasement do we not hear about? 3. So---it's not quite a myth?
- shoyer 9y ago
  > Farmer's who don't use their seeds are sued for patent infringement if a neighbors seeds blow onto their land and they find out about it. This is not true. This NPR article, written by the same author as top link, was already linked above: http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top...

rwoodley 9y ago

Please don't cite rt.com. That is pure Russian propaganda. Not saying your general point is wrong, but the minute you cite rt.com you're basically repeating politcally generated fake news straight from the Kremlin.

oh_sigh 9y ago
Agreed. Also, don't cite BBC because it is fake news straight from Buckingham. Also, don't quote WSJ or NYT because it is fake news straight from the 1%. And don't quote CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News because they are all just fake news buzzfeed wannabes.
- wavefunction 9y ago
  Buckingham? The British monarchy is only a figurehead.
  - bdamm 9y ago
    Right, they probably meant Downing Street.
  - macawfish 9y ago
    I took that as silly humor. Buckingham is a funny word.
  - googlryas 9y ago
    It's cute you believe that. Ever read the Black Spider memos?
    - dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
      From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_spider_memos#Reception https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_spider_memos#Reception: "The Black Spider Memos met with little criticism, and public support for the Prince of Wales."
      - googlryas 9y ago
        Most people in the UK will support the monarchy regardless of what they do. Including meddling in political affairs and not being figure heads.
- okreallywtf 9y ago
  So what totally unfiltered source do you get your information from?
  - oh_sigh 9y ago
    4chan
okreallywtf 9y ago
I know why you were downvoted, unfortunately you are more or less right but at the same time chances are they do publish or republish legitimate news soem of the time. I think its fine to ask for another source to verify a questionable source like RT.
- Jesus_Jones 9y ago
  RT is a particular case, because they publish things straight from a national state. Legitimate news sources do not. You'll never see them publish something that challenges their national sponsor.
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kafkaesq 9y ago
Your point is perfectly valid, and shouldn't have been downvoted. But as a footnote, the sibling comment here happens to also be correct: like any truly effective propaganda outlet, RT leverages a mix of largely legitimate / mundane news along with a certain proportion of fake or distorted news. But for the sake of simplicity it's best to stop citing RT or feeding it attention of any other form, altogether.

at-fates-hands 9y ago

I remember seeing a documentary film about this. I think it was called, "The Future of Food" and it documented pretty well Monsanto's MO to go after farmers who aren't using their seeds. Farmer's who don't use their seeds are sued for patent infringement if a neighbors seeds blow onto their land and they find out about it. Monsanto is a modern day Mafia cartel, it's insane.

sli 9y ago
No, they don't sue for that. Myth #2 as listed here: http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top...
- icantdrive55 9y ago
  "It's certainly true that Monsanto has been going after farmers whom the company suspects of using GMO seeds without paying royalties. And there are plenty of cases — including Schmeiser's — in which the company has overreached, engaged in raw intimidation, and made accusations that turned out not to be backed up by evidence." 1. Right out of the blog. 2. How much harrasement do we not hear about? 3. So---it's not quite a myth?
shoyer 9y ago
> Farmer's who don't use their seeds are sued for patent infringement if a neighbors seeds blow onto their land and they find out about it. This is not true. This NPR article, written by the same author as top link, was already linked above: http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top...