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I think it's a) really bizarre how invested you are in defending this obviously exploitative process -- do real work for us and then work for free for 3 months,

I think it's a) really bizarre how invested you are in defending this obviously exploitative process -- do real work for us and then work for free for 3 months, sure, all the Django devs line up, it's easy game; and b) ridiculous the extent to which you are minimizing the requirements of the exercise. It's a code screen -- reasonable is making sure the candidate can write code, not that the candidate ships you a full stack functional product with a test suite and design pattern justification document. What is insane is trying to justify this with "its ok Django is basically magic lol". I don't think we have anything further to productively discuss.

jarvuschris 9y ago
I'm with apetresc, describing this as a "full stack functional product" is absurd if you really understand what's being asked for. The company and product might be stupid, and the unpaid offer shit, but as far as reasonable and effective ways to hire people goes asking someone to scaffold out a frameworked app and add a couple endpoints should be quick and is a great way to assess their judgement and attention to detail. I don't know about apetresc but I'm vested in that being a good way to assess candidates, and think you're doing the world a disservice discouraging people from it just because you don't like the company/product/offer it's for.
- lovich 9y ago
  Its for an _internship. At what point does anyone think a good test for someone who has years of experience doing the actual job, would be an equally good test for someone who is expected to have literally no experience? The only way that would make sense is if you are the type of company that advertises for entry level jobs with 7 years experience, which is to say that you are trying to get senior work for junior pay. In this case it looks like they took it a step further to senior work for no pay

jarvuschris 9y ago

I'm with apetresc, describing this as a "full stack functional product" is absurd if you really understand what's being asked for. The company and product might be stupid, and the unpaid offer shit, but as far as reasonable and effective ways to hire people goes asking someone to scaffold out a frameworked app and add a couple endpoints should be quick and is a great way to assess their judgement and attention to detail. I don't know about apetresc but I'm vested in that being a good way to assess candidates, and think you're doing the world a disservice discouraging people from it just because you don't like the company/product/offer it's for.

lovich 9y ago
Its for an _internship. At what point does anyone think a good test for someone who has years of experience doing the actual job, would be an equally good test for someone who is expected to have literally no experience? The only way that would make sense is if you are the type of company that advertises for entry level jobs with 7 years experience, which is to say that you are trying to get senior work for junior pay. In this case it looks like they took it a step further to senior work for no pay