Yes, in that case, I totally agree - and I do believe that I'm lucky to be in this field when I compare working days to my peers that are in all sorts of indust

Yes, in that case, I totally agree - and I do believe that I'm lucky to be in this field when I compare working days to my peers that are in all sorts of industries. By "all the interns that..." I was thinking of those that don't have the confidence or feel they have to do this. In London I have seen places I worked at hire an intern purely as a "cheap employee" with little obligation. When I hear of people having to do internships to get an entry level job it really annoys me in all but a few cases. There was a time people were brought on and trained on the job. Companies want it both ways now - they mandate having a CS degree or similar and then in the same breath tell people they expect months of low or unpaid work "so they can be useful". No wonder millennials are fed up with business culture. I don't blame them. This is of course a particular terrible example of a "company" but I think good, strong internships as you describe are rare - from what I've seen in the UK at least.