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I mean, I agree that HN find's it much easier to shit on interview methods than come up with something reasonable... But read the post. They're asking him to bu

I mean, I agree that HN find's it much easier to shit on interview methods than come up with something reasonable... But read the post. They're asking him to build a complete application, front and back, that does just what their app is supposed to do... Before he gets a phone interview. And then they offer 3 months uncompensated "onboarding" before ever paying for work. There's bad interview practices, and then there's abuse.

apetresc 9y ago
> They're asking him to build a complete application, front and back, that does just what their app is supposed to do Are we reading the same post? They want basically two API endpoints, one to receive a POST upload and another to return all the things that were uploaded. You could do this in Django (which they want you to use) in significantly less than 100 lines of code. It seems like an ideal little sandbox.
- astura 9y ago
  Even if that was reasonable, did you stop reading after the first sentence? >...Authentication system that only allows authenticated users to upload photos but all users to view photos -Automated testing -Code coverage does not need to be complete, just generate that some critical functions of the system have tests attached to them. -Write-up on the systems design pattern choices They are basically saying "make our entire product."
  - apetresc 9y ago
    Yes, of course. Authentication is a single Django module, and they want unit tests (not even code coverage). Those are all scaffolding around the code that everyone agrees should be there. When people complain about whiteboard interviews, this is exactly the kind of stuff they argue is missing.
    - lovich 9y ago
      Bruh, they are asking for a well put together app with all the features you'd have in production. From an intern. You are right in that a senior dev could bang this out, but it would still take them a day at least. Interns generally don't know what they are doing. If they did they would be going for the higher paid job already. How does asking for an entire MVP from an intern ever make sense? Even if they paid him to make this app it would stop being unethical but it would still be silly.

apetresc 9y ago

> They're asking him to build a complete application, front and back, that does just what their app is supposed to do Are we reading the same post? They want basically two API endpoints, one to receive a POST upload and another to return all the things that were uploaded. You could do this in Django (which they want you to use) in significantly less than 100 lines of code. It seems like an ideal little sandbox.

astura 9y ago
Even if that was reasonable, did you stop reading after the first sentence? >...Authentication system that only allows authenticated users to upload photos but all users to view photos -Automated testing -Code coverage does not need to be complete, just generate that some critical functions of the system have tests attached to them. -Write-up on the systems design pattern choices They are basically saying "make our entire product."
- apetresc 9y ago
  Yes, of course. Authentication is a single Django module, and they want unit tests (not even code coverage). Those are all scaffolding around the code that everyone agrees should be there. When people complain about whiteboard interviews, this is exactly the kind of stuff they argue is missing.
  - lovich 9y ago
    Bruh, they are asking for a well put together app with all the features you'd have in production. From an intern. You are right in that a senior dev could bang this out, but it would still take them a day at least. Interns generally don't know what they are doing. If they did they would be going for the higher paid job already. How does asking for an entire MVP from an intern ever make sense? Even if they paid him to make this app it would stop being unethical but it would still be silly.