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It is illegal for unpaid interns to do ANY work, at ANY point, which provides value to your business. Interns need to know this. Employers need to know this a

It is illegal for unpaid interns to do ANY work, at ANY point, which provides value to your business. Interns need to know this. Employers need to know this as well, but they've proven that they can't be trusted a million times. 'Make game of that which makes as much of thee.' Employers are going to treat employees like a cost center to be reduced, a factor to be manipulated in order to optimize things, etc and the only way that can not end in tragedy is if everyone is aware and the employees play the employer just as much. This is what employers chose.

aerovistae 9y ago
this comment would carry a little more weight if you could cite the laws to which you refer
- detaro 9y ago
  for the US: https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs71.pdf https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs71.pdf
  - segmondy 9y ago
    The employer that provides the training derives no IMMEDIATE advantage from the activities of the intern; and on occasion its operations may actually be impeded; Thus, an intern can do work that the company profits from, it just doesn't need to be immediate.
    - forgottenpass 9y ago
      Yes, but in context that clause seems more aimed towards an intern being accidentally useful, not picking up tasks with a deadline more than X months out. Having something done now that will start being useful later on still has arguable immediate value from the perspectives of scheduling and investing in the future of the company.
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JBlue42 9y ago
This only gets enforced if there's some sort of lawsuit (which happened recently in LA against a film company). What out of college kids are going to go up against a company or even know? It's all about desirability to get a name and experience on the resume and maybe a job. It's not right, and I see it taken advantage of all the time in LA, but it's what happens, with little oversight or enforcement from the powers that be.
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aerovistae 9y ago

this comment would carry a little more weight if you could cite the laws to which you refer

detaro 9y ago
for the US: https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs71.pdf https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs71.pdf
- segmondy 9y ago
  The employer that provides the training derives no IMMEDIATE advantage from the activities of the intern; and on occasion its operations may actually be impeded; Thus, an intern can do work that the company profits from, it just doesn't need to be immediate.
  - forgottenpass 9y ago
    Yes, but in context that clause seems more aimed towards an intern being accidentally useful, not picking up tasks with a deadline more than X months out. Having something done now that will start being useful later on still has arguable immediate value from the perspectives of scheduling and investing in the future of the company.
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JBlue42 9y ago

This only gets enforced if there's some sort of lawsuit (which happened recently in LA against a film company). What out of college kids are going to go up against a company or even know? It's all about desirability to get a name and experience on the resume and maybe a job. It's not right, and I see it taken advantage of all the time in LA, but it's what happens, with little oversight or enforcement from the powers that be.

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