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Yikes, the nerve. For a really junior applicant, getting a startup internship on your resume can be a big deal for your career. You'd also learn a lot from ex-A

by a13n 9y ago

Yikes, the nerve. For a really junior applicant, getting a startup internship on your resume can be a big deal for your career. You'd also learn a lot from ex-Amazon engineers. But realistically, I don't think the company would get much from an intern at this level. If they want the intern to build the app, then they better be good enough to demand payment. Doesn't seem like the company will be successful with this approach.

GCU-Empiricist 9y ago
Any ex-amazon Engineer who is too poor of a leader to see the basic logistic problem with a 3 month unpaid training is probably going to cause the toxic culture they are seeking to avoid.
bspn 9y ago
> You'd also learn a lot from ex-Amazon engineers Reading the thread, it appears they were at most SWE interns at Amazon so the learning opportunities would be minimal I imagine. This feels all sorts of icky and the poster did the right thing by just walking away IMO.
- mijoharas 9y ago
  > ...SWE interns at Amazon... I'm confused by this, when I was at amazon I was not aware of the role of SWE, (can someone tell me what it stands for?). We were SDE's, which was Software Development Engineer, and SDETs: Software Development Engineer Testing, and others, any idea what it is?
  - lightbyte 9y ago
    SWE is SoftWare Engineer. It's the same thing you know as SDE.
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adamnemecek 9y ago
> You'd also learn a lot from ex-Amazon engineers. You are really overestimating the skills of an Amazon engineer. Or just working at Google/Microsoft/Facebook doesn’t say all that much about your skills.
- 8ytecoder 9y ago
  Worse, the CTO was only an intern.
jkingsbery 9y ago
Just throwing this out there: you can learn a lot by working with current Amazon engineers, and having Amazon on your resume can be a big deal for your career. We train you on our stack, and as complex as it might be it will take less than 3 months. https://us-amazon.icims.com/jobs/473568/sde-intern/job?mobile=false&width=1245&height=1200&bga=true&needsRedirect=false&jan1offset=-300&jun1offset=-240 https://us-amazon.icims.com/jobs/473568/sde-intern/job?mobil...
- a13n 9y ago
  And they pay you too!
bm1362 9y ago
Yup, having an internship opens so many doors and if you're not going to a top school you hardly get a response from Google/Amazon/Facebook etc. I'd also bet that anyone who can build a Django photo sharing app with auth has a much better skillset than what I'd expect from a first-year intern. Intern's at Amazon, etc, tend to be pursuing a Masters and usually have some experience. One intern project was adding Jepsen testing to a distributed database, for example.

by a13n 9y ago

GCU-Empiricist 9y ago

Any ex-amazon Engineer who is too poor of a leader to see the basic logistic problem with a 3 month unpaid training is probably going to cause the toxic culture they are seeking to avoid.

bspn 9y ago

> You'd also learn a lot from ex-Amazon engineers Reading the thread, it appears they were at most SWE interns at Amazon so the learning opportunities would be minimal I imagine. This feels all sorts of icky and the poster did the right thing by just walking away IMO.

mijoharas 9y ago
> ...SWE interns at Amazon... I'm confused by this, when I was at amazon I was not aware of the role of SWE, (can someone tell me what it stands for?). We were SDE's, which was Software Development Engineer, and SDETs: Software Development Engineer Testing, and others, any idea what it is?
- lightbyte 9y ago
  SWE is SoftWare Engineer. It's the same thing you know as SDE.
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]

adamnemecek 9y ago

> You'd also learn a lot from ex-Amazon engineers. You are really overestimating the skills of an Amazon engineer. Or just working at Google/Microsoft/Facebook doesn’t say all that much about your skills.

8ytecoder 9y ago
Worse, the CTO was only an intern.

jkingsbery 9y ago

Just throwing this out there: you can learn a lot by working with current Amazon engineers, and having Amazon on your resume can be a big deal for your career. We train you on our stack, and as complex as it might be it will take less than 3 months. https://us-amazon.icims.com/jobs/473568/sde-intern/job?mobile=false&width=1245&height=1200&bga=true&needsRedirect=false&jan1offset=-300&jun1offset=-240 https://us-amazon.icims.com/jobs/473568/sde-intern/job?mobil...

a13n 9y ago
And they pay you too!

bm1362 9y ago

Yup, having an internship opens so many doors and if you're not going to a top school you hardly get a response from Google/Amazon/Facebook etc. I'd also bet that anyone who can build a Django photo sharing app with auth has a much better skillset than what I'd expect from a first-year intern. Intern's at Amazon, etc, tend to be pursuing a Masters and usually have some experience. One intern project was adding Jepsen testing to a distributed database, for example.