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Eh, from abuse you can walk away, and defend yourself- from a severe burnout you never recover? Im so sick of people declaring anything sexual related the horr

Eh, from abuse you can walk away, and defend yourself- from a severe burnout you never recover? Im so sick of people declaring anything sexual related the horror of horrors, just because its the sacred trading good of one half of the species. I know victims of sexual abuse, and there lifes go on- just like everybody elses- yes, some therapy, yes some awkward moments when jokes backfire, but life goes on. They are not falling apart wrecks, they are successes. I know burnout people- and life does not go on there. Some of them to be frank are near functional vegetables. Severe Burnout is worser. Yes, this is heresy. Everything sexual is holy and only the high priests may state what is of value and in what order. Trying to value-order subjective experiences is the mindset of a squirrel beneath a chest-nut tree anyway.

csydas 9y ago
I'd argue the opposite - many times abuse isn't something you can just walk away from, because like burnout, the source of the problem comes from something you depend on, and that's part of why it's such a severe problem. In the case of work burnout, is not the same advice applicable? Just go somewhere else if the problem is that much trouble; plenty of places that offer good work for less stress. I'm not here to say that one is worse or better than the other; not a point I'm interested in making or debating really as I don't see the value in competing over who has it worse, I see value in trying to help people regardless of the issue. I get that you're frustrated personally with the discrepancy and uneven handling of different serious problems, but just from my reading of this, it seems less like you're worried about the severity of abuse and more about how Western societies tend to treat harassment cases and sexuality, which is a different issue altogether than burnout and workplace harassment. And I only say Western because I'm living abroad at the moment and I see what it's like where harassment isn't considered a real problem at all, and it results in some absolutely miserable people who have no choice in the matter as it's either deal with the harassment or give up a job in their field, which makes it near impossible to get back into it, especially in specialized industries where the higher-ups all know one another and complaining about harassment is grounds for rejecting an applicant. Trying to ignore it or leave it just results in you being penalized further for a problem someone else is causing. Like I said before, I'm not sure that Workplace Burnout and Harassment in the workplace are two problems that need to be triaged; the source of the problem is the same, the effects are both debilitating, and the removal of both helps everyone. It's why I find your closing statement to be a strange conclusion to a post which more or less does exactly what the conclusion derides, unless I'm misunderstanding the latter part about the squirrel mindset, as I really don't understand that fully; though I take it to be saying that trying to order subjective experiences is not a reasonable task, which is pretty much what I said before. No need for triage here when both problems have the same source.

csydas 9y ago

I'd argue the opposite - many times abuse isn't something you can just walk away from, because like burnout, the source of the problem comes from something you depend on, and that's part of why it's such a severe problem. In the case of work burnout, is not the same advice applicable? Just go somewhere else if the problem is that much trouble; plenty of places that offer good work for less stress. I'm not here to say that one is worse or better than the other; not a point I'm interested in making or debating really as I don't see the value in competing over who has it worse, I see value in trying to help people regardless of the issue. I get that you're frustrated personally with the discrepancy and uneven handling of different serious problems, but just from my reading of this, it seems less like you're worried about the severity of abuse and more about how Western societies tend to treat harassment cases and sexuality, which is a different issue altogether than burnout and workplace harassment. And I only say Western because I'm living abroad at the moment and I see what it's like where harassment isn't considered a real problem at all, and it results in some absolutely miserable people who have no choice in the matter as it's either deal with the harassment or give up a job in their field, which makes it near impossible to get back into it, especially in specialized industries where the higher-ups all know one another and complaining about harassment is grounds for rejecting an applicant. Trying to ignore it or leave it just results in you being penalized further for a problem someone else is causing. Like I said before, I'm not sure that Workplace Burnout and Harassment in the workplace are two problems that need to be triaged; the source of the problem is the same, the effects are both debilitating, and the removal of both helps everyone. It's why I find your closing statement to be a strange conclusion to a post which more or less does exactly what the conclusion derides, unless I'm misunderstanding the latter part about the squirrel mindset, as I really don't understand that fully; though I take it to be saying that trying to order subjective experiences is not a reasonable task, which is pretty much what I said before. No need for triage here when both problems have the same source.