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I would guess that Go's tiny pauses would be less of a concern than it's overhead compared to C, C++ and Rust where there is more room for low level optimizatio

by tybit 9y ago

I would guess that Go's tiny pauses would be less of a concern than it's overhead compared to C, C++ and Rust where there is more room for low level optimizations not available in Go. Not particularly important, I'm just curious as to how much the GC is really responsible for slowness as opposed to just correlating with languages that don't allow controlling heap vs stack allocations.

0xFFC 9y ago
MIT disagrees with both of you : https://math.mit.edu/research/highschool/primes/materials/2015/Sheth-Welling.pdf https://math.mit.edu/research/highschool/primes/materials/20...
- akavel 9y ago
  I'm somewhat sad they didn't include a few things: - a box/whisker plot in the latency comparison graph — esp. if we're to talk about Go's GC... - some discussion/arguments why the particular C implementation was chosen ("tapip") — I'm not an expert in this area so I don't have the slightest idea how notable it is; - how did they detect/measure the claimed memory leaks in C? also, some statistics about the claimed crashes? - isn't clear to me if they used some "well known" load testing tools, or some homemade framework? (e.g. "siege" is a tool I read about more than once?) - more details on how exactly the "correctness was determined by testing against Linux kernel [implementation]". That said, my initial loose conclusions from this seem to be: - it appears it may be easier to write a correct implementation in Go (the implementation seems to be written just ad hoc by the article authors?) than in C; - it appears it may be easier in Go than in C to write an implementation scaling well w.r.t. average latency & throughput, assuming the need is for a multi-threaded & user-space implementation.
- dastbe 9y ago
  That paper was written by high school students; the only thing MIT about that paper is the hostname. It reads like a fun project but after skimming I would not consider it something authoritative on whether golang (or csp) is a better mechanism for writing a userspace network stack.

by tybit 9y ago

0xFFC 9y ago

MIT disagrees with both of you : https://math.mit.edu/research/highschool/primes/materials/2015/Sheth-Welling.pdf https://math.mit.edu/research/highschool/primes/materials/20...

akavel 9y ago
I'm somewhat sad they didn't include a few things: - a box/whisker plot in the latency comparison graph — esp. if we're to talk about Go's GC... - some discussion/arguments why the particular C implementation was chosen ("tapip") — I'm not an expert in this area so I don't have the slightest idea how notable it is; - how did they detect/measure the claimed memory leaks in C? also, some statistics about the claimed crashes? - isn't clear to me if they used some "well known" load testing tools, or some homemade framework? (e.g. "siege" is a tool I read about more than once?) - more details on how exactly the "correctness was determined by testing against Linux kernel [implementation]". That said, my initial loose conclusions from this seem to be: - it appears it may be easier to write a correct implementation in Go (the implementation seems to be written just ad hoc by the article authors?) than in C; - it appears it may be easier in Go than in C to write an implementation scaling well w.r.t. average latency & throughput, assuming the need is for a multi-threaded & user-space implementation.
dastbe 9y ago
That paper was written by high school students; the only thing MIT about that paper is the hostname. It reads like a fun project but after skimming I would not consider it something authoritative on whether golang (or csp) is a better mechanism for writing a userspace network stack.