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I'm sorry, but this isn't completely true. (The part about burglars not using lock picks). I am an amatuer locksmith, and I can open Masterlock No. 3 or No. 5

by blhack 16y ago

I'm sorry, but this isn't completely true. (The part about burglars not using lock picks). I am an amatuer locksmith, and I can open Masterlock No. 3 or No. 5 (which are used everywhere) incredibly quickly (less than 10 seconds, typically [especially on No. 5, which are horrible). A half diamond pick and a torsion wrench are tiny, I can keep them in my pocket and nobody will ever notice... I can't do this with a huge bolt cutter. Now, do I steal things? Absolutely not. Has getting into picking caused me to be much much more careful about what I lock up, where, and with what? definitely. I'm all for locksports, I think the fact that people are getting into picking is awesome, but the idea that using a bolt cutter against a padlock is faster and more conveinient than using a pick is just plain wrong.

jeffcoat 16y ago
I don't see anywhere that you're refuting the idea that burglars won't use lockpicks, instead of messier but much simpler-to-learn entry methods. I'm a decent hand with a lockpick myself, but when I had to get into my house with-the-keys-(and-my-picks)-locked-inside in a hurry last year, I put a rock through the window least expensive to replace. Took less than a minute, and no practice time at all. Locks keep honest people honest; barring the set of people willing to open an unlocked door, but not put a rock through a window. In a normal home, the best you can hope for from someone willing to use the rock is intrusion detection.
- blhack 16y ago
  There are lots of things that are secured with a padlock only. Say a burglar is trying to break into the shed in my backyard because he wants the tools in it. He could: * Bring a heavy, obvious bolt-cutter and cut the lock. * Bring a sledghehammer and smash the lock off of the door * Use the same sledge to break a hole in the side of the shed * Battery operated angle-grinder orrrr He could bring a pick and a torsion wrench, make no noise at all, not look at all suspicious to my neighbors, have the lock off in the same amount of time as he would with any of the methods above (faster, in some cases), and leave no traces, meaning I won't even know anything is gone until I go out to the shed again. What would you do? If I was the thieving type, I would choose a lock pick.
  - CapitalistCartr 16y ago
    Your reasoning is sound, but the fact is, lock-picking thieves are nearly nonexistent in reality. I suppose it's something to do with the mentality of people who are willing to take the easy way out, regardless of ethics. But, whatever the reason, lock-picking abuse is incredibly rare.
aquateen 16y ago
I remember first seeing the MIT guide and it sparked my interest, however I didn't want to make homemade picks. Can you recommend a good lock pick set?
- blhack 16y ago
  I'm really the wrong person to ask; this is something I play with on my desk while I'm thinking through a problem and I'm sure the picks I have would be considered trash by a real locksmith. That said, the first set I had (which I loved) were things I made myself. After those got ruined by people coming into my office and squealing "LEMME TRY" which resulting in them bending them to the point of uselessness, I bought a set at a "spy" store in Phoenix; they seem to work just fine for my purposes. Honestly, I wouldn't get too caught up in buying "nice" picks. They're incredibly simple tools and I doubt that you're going to notice any difference between a good set and a cheap set if you're doing what I'm doing.
- bmalicoat 16y ago
  I have this set [1]. Though mine has a plastic handle so it was about half the price listed there. It's a nice set, quite small and very pocketable. There's something deeply satisfying about picking locks, hearing each pin tick and feeling the barrel give just a little bit more than the last time you torqued it. I love it. [1] http://www.southord.com/Lock-Picking-Tools/Jackknife-Pocket-Lock-Pick-Sets.html http://www.southord.com/Lock-Picking-Tools/Jackknife-Pocket-...
  - blhack 16y ago
    Ha! YES! That little snapping feeling. I still remember getting my first lock, :). I was on the phone with a friend and just raking the crap out of it until finally POP. She did not understand my excitement.

by blhack 16y ago

jeffcoat 16y ago

I don't see anywhere that you're refuting the idea that burglars won't use lockpicks, instead of messier but much simpler-to-learn entry methods. I'm a decent hand with a lockpick myself, but when I had to get into my house with-the-keys-(and-my-picks)-locked-inside in a hurry last year, I put a rock through the window least expensive to replace. Took less than a minute, and no practice time at all. Locks keep honest people honest; barring the set of people willing to open an unlocked door, but not put a rock through a window. In a normal home, the best you can hope for from someone willing to use the rock is intrusion detection.

blhack 16y ago
There are lots of things that are secured with a padlock only. Say a burglar is trying to break into the shed in my backyard because he wants the tools in it. He could: * Bring a heavy, obvious bolt-cutter and cut the lock. * Bring a sledghehammer and smash the lock off of the door * Use the same sledge to break a hole in the side of the shed * Battery operated angle-grinder orrrr He could bring a pick and a torsion wrench, make no noise at all, not look at all suspicious to my neighbors, have the lock off in the same amount of time as he would with any of the methods above (faster, in some cases), and leave no traces, meaning I won't even know anything is gone until I go out to the shed again. What would you do? If I was the thieving type, I would choose a lock pick.
- CapitalistCartr 16y ago
  Your reasoning is sound, but the fact is, lock-picking thieves are nearly nonexistent in reality. I suppose it's something to do with the mentality of people who are willing to take the easy way out, regardless of ethics. But, whatever the reason, lock-picking abuse is incredibly rare.

aquateen 16y ago

I remember first seeing the MIT guide and it sparked my interest, however I didn't want to make homemade picks. Can you recommend a good lock pick set?

blhack 16y ago
I'm really the wrong person to ask; this is something I play with on my desk while I'm thinking through a problem and I'm sure the picks I have would be considered trash by a real locksmith. That said, the first set I had (which I loved) were things I made myself. After those got ruined by people coming into my office and squealing "LEMME TRY" which resulting in them bending them to the point of uselessness, I bought a set at a "spy" store in Phoenix; they seem to work just fine for my purposes. Honestly, I wouldn't get too caught up in buying "nice" picks. They're incredibly simple tools and I doubt that you're going to notice any difference between a good set and a cheap set if you're doing what I'm doing.
bmalicoat 16y ago
I have this set [1]. Though mine has a plastic handle so it was about half the price listed there. It's a nice set, quite small and very pocketable. There's something deeply satisfying about picking locks, hearing each pin tick and feeling the barrel give just a little bit more than the last time you torqued it. I love it. [1] http://www.southord.com/Lock-Picking-Tools/Jackknife-Pocket-Lock-Pick-Sets.html http://www.southord.com/Lock-Picking-Tools/Jackknife-Pocket-...
- blhack 16y ago
  Ha! YES! That little snapping feeling. I still remember getting my first lock, :). I was on the phone with a friend and just raking the crap out of it until finally POP. She did not understand my excitement.